yeah, late to the game is often a tough way to find success... if moo u had sunk like a rock in what turned out to be a diluted jv d-1 with more overhead we would be proud of our astute decision... isn't there a current financial situation where UND is better off than Moo U? I don't grasp the title 9 loophole thing and don't care to learn it, but curious if the loophole was closed, then what....