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Got anything to prove that out? Because you aren't correct. Why is this board full of people that enjoy denigrating UND athletics at every chance?

I'm shocked!!! But oh well, guess some people got their chance to complain about an absolute nothing-burger even though others told them they were wrong. Unreal the lengths and stretches of the imagination some will go just to take shots at the program they supposedly support.

Putting them on a pedestal and bending over backwards for them and then being stuck with any resulting mess as they use the conferences as a stepping stone would be one of those negatives.

I don't think anyone is arguing this. How/where they currently are/etc, sure there are differences. But no one is against UND showing significant improvement.

I didn't write the article so I don't know. It listed those as those "were among the Summit League teams that had contacted him". Meaning there were just more than that. Answer me this, have you definitively heard from Walters or someone within the UND program that they have chosen not to reach out to him? Or are just making assumptions based off of what a writer for a Fargo paper put in there? Which of the two things is more likely? UND wasn't one of the 50 teams named or UND hasn't reached out? Based on what I've heard, I know what my answer is. Based on your prior comments, I assume I know which one you think is likely. We can disagree but only a handful of people know definitively.

Ok. Now where are the other 30 that were in all the articles? Need to keep what we currently have and change the narrative. Should (is) UND be expressing interest with him? Yes. Is it not going to matter and he's going to end up at a high mid-major/P6? Also yes. (Still absolutely agree that should be talking with him, which I believe they are).

He did choose to go there over other offers out of high school. He's one that will actually improve his situation making that decision.

Obviously the kids were good enough to get offers after playing as true freshman, so they must have been alright or the coach managed to develop them pretty well in 9 months on campus. Wasn't Omot was a pretty highly sought after recruit last year? More of that please. We all want to see wins. Let's hope the talent that was brought in last year stays and we can add a few impact pieces that are out there. Who said we weren't? One article (from the Fargo media) said he'd heard from the D1 Dakota schools. Another (also from the Fargo media) only listed a handful of the 50 he's heard from and 10 he's gotten offers from.

People complain the staff doesn't try new things when clearly they focused on a defensive minded game plan the second half of the year after trying to have a more offensive focused players in the lineup the first half of the year. People complain the staff doesn't try new combinations because they weren't winning, yet win they did start winning, people complained about who was in the stands. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but it's almost like people just want to complain.

More wishful thinking than anything, assuming chances are pretty slim, but never hurts to inquire. Coming off an injury and a chance to play closer to home are positives.

Any chance Lauren Ware wants to come back and play closer to home coming off an injury?

It's both plus some. There are multiple issues to changing a thing that a very small amount of people have an issue with. Seems like creating answers for a problem that really doesn't exis to most. Making up hypothetical attendance numbers doesn't answer or mitigate possible problems. Until there's an actual reason to change, it isn't going to.

No clue what to estimate. Nothing says that attendance is actually going to increase significantly. It didn't for UND when they played in the semis and finals at home the year they made it to the big dance. Do your numbers look realistic? Sure. But at what travel cost and and at least an extra weekend added onto the season? Omaha has to go to Fargo then Macomb and play on Thursday/Saturday? UND goes to St. Paul then Vermillion? And refs. Plus the lack of TV availability at some locations. Short-term planning is a pain and not cheap. Even if you sell a similar amount of tickets, you're going to lose additional money, especially without a "host city" covering a bunch of costs.

I used the literal highest attendance each team had in the first part. Almost all were well above average being a rivarly or sponsored game (or hosting a historic ORU team). So those numbers were already inflated. In the second part, the numbers were inflated by ORU hosting a pair of games and them having a historic season where their home crowds were huge. Go back a year, when they were still pretty good, and the numbers were 2-3,000 less. Having it at an neutral site guarantees ticket sales and revenue for the conference. Go to home site guarantees nothing, including additional fans showing up because, here is where you missed my point: "factoring in POST SEASON loser go home games on the weekend".....well, I pointed out that in the case that actually happened on UND campus, there was not a significant bump. In fact it was lower than at least one of the regular season games (don't care to check the rest because the point stands, no noticeable bump).

What is the point of this outside of excluding a team while managing to lengthen the Nchc tournament by an extra weekend and a bunch of extra games? Not opposed to change, but why try to burn out whoever wins?

Also for reference, when UND hosted the WBB Big Sky championship, they drew 1404 in the semis and 1937 in the finals. Hardly a full house. Attendance for the NDSU game that year was 2261.

Since you asked....here's some actual numbers. Highest attendance for each school this season: NDSU - 3867 (vs UND) UND - 2458 (vs NDSU) Omaha - 4316 (sponsored game, 1100 higher than second highest) Denver - 1335 UMKC - 1532 WIU - 1681 UST - 2013 SDSU - 4421 USD - 4605 (vs SDSU) ORU - 8012 Here's what your hypothetical matchups drew during the regular season: NDSU v Omaha attendance 6k Regular season - 1805 St Thomas v UND attendance 2k (new 5k arena coming in St Paul soon) Regular season - 985 Western Illinois v Denver attendance 5k Regular season - 508 South Dakota v KC attendance 6k Regular season - 2080 Your estimate: 19K Regular season comps: 5378 Then.... Western Illinois v Omaha attendance 5k Regular season - 353 South Dakota v North Dakota attendance 6k Regular season - 2416 Your estimate: 11K Regular season comps: 2769 Then... Oral Roberts v Omaha attendance 11k Regular season - 7846(only holds ~8800) South Dakota State v North Dakota attendance 5k? Regular season - 1744 Your estimate: 16K Regular season comps: 9590 Then... Oral Roberts v North Dakota attendance 11k Regular season - 7492 Your estimates: 57,000 Comparable regular season matchups: 25,229 Even if you take the best attendance from each venue (most of which were rivalry games or hosting ORU), you're still well short of 40,000 attendance. And you estimate 11,000 for ORU when their arena holds over 2,000 less than that. Based on realistic fan support, especially when visiting teams are going to be traveling on short notice, I'm seeing a hard time being above 30-35,000 in a best case scenario. And it is only getting that high because ORU was pushing 8,000 a game in a historic season and nowhere else is going to get anywhere near that.

LOL at those estimates.

Solid hire. Guessing he really wanted to get back into coaching 14 years of experience as a head coach plus another 13 years coaching linebackers. Will be a good resource for Schwenzfeier to lean on.

UND's numbers are historically under 50% allocated funds. Considering the restrictions for hockey and football, thus lack of ticket revenue, not shocking that the 2020-21 school year relied much heavier on allocated funds.

Bet the national title was worth it though.

Maag showing out pretty well today.

Nice investment into the program for a 7th home game in 2024. That makes for 19 home games over the next 3 years.

Likely that Berry was a little fired up after winning an elimination game, his team played much harder than the night before and probably a little perturbed at some of Jake's on-the-nose comments about effort on Friday night (which were completely in-line) and it came off a little more aggressive than intended. Nothing wrong with a coach showing a little emotion. I would also guess that there is absolutely zero hard feelings between Berry and Jake, it was a heat of the moment comment.

Pretty thin skinned for a guy who's been through the nastiness of college athletics. But I digress. Retain and build.