and why is it hard to believe alcohol wasn't involved with you? It wouldn't shock me either way, but you seem adamant that it was and it seems to be your first thought. Most people on here are more prone to jump to conclusions toward the negative side, and I find that unfair. I don't think anyone here has the mentality that we never do wrong and if you honestly believe that, you're being kind of naive. Using the past indescretions as an example, why would any of us say the sioux do no wrong? That's COMPLETELY misguided. Hak said there were no rules broken, and I don't think he would say that if it wasn't true. He hasn't hid from the facts of all the other incidents over the years and I don't see him starting now. The fact of the matter is, the Kristo's requested privacy. UND is respecting those wishes and so should everyone else but apparently everyone else thinks it's their "right" to know, when it's not. Sorry, but there's more important things to worry about.