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My guess is on a neutral field the line would be Griz 10 point favorite at a minimum so with the game at UND I'll say the spread will be Griz -7 give or take a point.

Agree...and if that was the #6 team in FCS?? QB...average. Defense...not as good as advertised. Zenner...best RB to hit Alerus possibly ever. He was flat out the difference by himself. I expect the Griz to be every bit as good as SDSU if not better this Saturday.

Big loss. Like SDSU losing Zenner for a month.

I read a week or 2...that's alot different than October. Not good for the Cats.

Correct. I guess we do have a couple "signature" wins in our D1 era then...

+1 for the avatar...well played!

I see the Griz trying to get the early lead using balance on offense and then controlling the clock by pounding the ball with their 2 quality RBs. Slowing down their running attack is key for UND. I think UND will get points to stay close...at least for awhile.

Hey...your team won. We lost. Sumner is overrated and has as much chance of getting drafted as I do of playing in the NBA for the Wolves at 5'8 and white. Now go away.

Johnson is back at QB for Griz after a messy legal issue and will be a big upgrade offensively and getting a transfer RB from Marshall won't hurt them either. This Griz team will be better on both sides of the ball than last year. Last was an abberation for Montana. They are back IMO. For UND to stay close and have a chance to win: 1) Have to run the ball with some success. Miller isn't the answer for 60 minutes. 2) STOP THE RUN. I don't care what happened in the 2nd half vs. Jacks. 295 to one RB is pathetic. 3) Avoid the costly miscues...TOs and stupid penalties. Have to show some amount of discipline. UND showed stretches of very good play Saturday. Stretches this Saturday won't get it done vs. the Griz though.

I thought Sumner wasn't even close to advertised but Zenner was better than advertised. Their O-line was outstanding as well.

Not surprised by that quote. Hardin NEEDS to be targeted 15x/game minimum.

College FB is different than the NFL is terms of having a plan for success IMO. In college you need to have a stout D especially vs the run, you have to run the ball with some decent success and you have to be disciplined in avoiding dumba** penalties and TOs. None of this has been part of the plan in Muss's tenure.

Fixed your post.

GB schedule is tough too. WASH, then @ CIN then bye in week 4. Hoping for a 1-2 start. They were like watching UND yesterday...penalties, cant get off field on 3rd down and can't run the ball. And how are no adjustments made to take away Boldin!! Only thing is there is no FCS equivalent of ARog in Kelly green and white right now. He'll keep them in any game.

Haha...Joe has the body for it.

Muss did that with Mackey last year!

Spot on...all of it. I think 6-5 is likely the final record as well...which will be lauded as improvement and moving in the right direction.

Well said. I agree. Watching live Joe had the "it" factor. Bartels...not so much.

Well...at some places anyway.

My Griz fan/buddy in Mizzu said they have had this game next Saturday circled for a long time. Coupled w fact they are much better than last year...gonna be tough.

As mentioned prior the fact that only one RB ran the ball is perplexing... excluding Zenner.

Our road games are not a lock so 7-4 would be progress. The loss of all 4 home games vs. the big 4 wouldn't be though.

What about the Cats QB then!!!

I'm with you. 3-4 positive run yards is never a bad play. Miller can't make something out of nothing.

7-4 IMO w a win over one of the big 4 would be progress. Griz are a couple notches better than last year. Cats and EWU are for real too. A quality win (or 2) has to happen vs. the 3 remaining.