Oxbow6

You want me to hold a sign with his cell # on it at the game?

I do appreciate your optimism though

As far as the FB programs, we are nowhere near being on "equal footing". Consecutive NCs, recent host of Gameday, a legit HC...and I could go on. UND...coming off a blowout loss to a conference opponent at home, sub .500 record overall vs. FCS teams and a HC that at best is suited to be a coordinator.

Wow...that coach might need to buy Muss a cup of coffee and visit with him about accountability and not sugar coating the obvious.

We were all saying that before this season started...

Nothing to date gives me any reason to pick UND. Cats 45 UND 35

Granted the Packets have lost to 2 playoff teams but blowing 4th quarter leads in both doesn't set up for an automatic win @ Minny at the end of October...they could piss that one away like today.

"I know there was some ignorant backlash" to where Gameday would do the show in Fargo per producer Fitting. "Ignorant" associated w SU fans as perceived by an outsider...well said sir.

I had SU buddies pissed last night that ONLY about 30% of the Gameday broadcast was focused on their team and program! This just in....99.99% of college FB could care less about NDSU FB. This pissing and moaning by some of the SU fan base is like Lakes getting a date w a Playboy Bunny then being pissed she doesn't show up in JUST a thong!!!

Free Slim Jim's and Skoal for all in attendance at the Dome for the game...how about that!?!? Now that's a benefit for those people.

This is a big day for NDSU, Fargo, ND and the FCS. Too many times in today's society "we" (generally speaking) get rewarded and praised for mediocrity...not in this case. Well deserved by NDSU! Least Muss had the recruiting chips of the "Nickle" and the Red Pepper out on the recruiting trail last night.

And this coming from critics who keep a tooth pick tucked behind one of their ears, have a "dress" pair of cowboy boots, and use Copenhagen as an after dinner mint!

Back to back NCs with the K-State, the defending B12 champs, win is why they are in Fargo as we speak...and deservedly so IMO.

Has underperformed in his 3 years to date at UND. NHL type body with better skill than his production so far. I think he'll have a decent year.

This is how I would go as well.

Agree...just don't appreciate those like Bison Dan showing up here saying it won't happen cuase my money says otherwise.

I'm not offended...heck it's not even our nickname anymore so I guess we don't need to have a converstion of right or wrong in this instance. Point is SU fans won't let it go and it probably come up at some point Saturday.

I'll have plenty of SU buddies there to get honest info from...you wanna make a wager at some point "Sioux Suck" will be said/heard??

Muss will get to finish the season regardless of what happens from here on out and I hoenstly believe if his record isn't worse than last year (5-6), he'll be back regardless if they get thumped in their next two home games. I think Faison at this point has too big an ego and investment after just signing Muss to an extention to make a move after this year...unless things really go south like 4-7 or worse.

Good points. The terms class and Bison fans are rarely used in the same sentence. I think there is a very real possiblity you'll hear that chant Saturday morning on TV. Will be interesting to watch...

Again a 6-5 finish with big losses to the Griz, Cats and EWU...all at home...IMO will be enough for Muss to stick another year in our AD's eyes. Sad but that will probably be the reality and shows how mediocrity has overcome the FB program. Least I can watch Corso put on the big Bison head Saturday to reaffirm the widening gap between the 2 programs.

My money is on Lakes. That would be pure gold!! Lakes and Corso hashing it out!

I can hear it now from those minions from the AC..."What does Holtz know! He has never coached a big time FB program!"

And Muss provides a "stable situation" within and for the FB program? I get messgae boards are "bad" and Muss is "good" in your eyes and you are able to give those opinions here...along with everyone else and their opinions.

If that is true, it's basically the "throw it on the wall and see what sticks" philosophy. Goodness...