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You can get anything you'd ever dream of done to a jersey at EPS. Before sending it in, I'd provide a photo of the jersey and see if they already have whatever information you need on file. If they don't, make sure to supply plenty of good reference photos. Very rarely does EPS not do something right, so just make sure they have the correct info on what you want done.

It showed on tv! We need more of this at Ralph Engelstad Library. My idea is to incentivize cheering by raising beet prices for every UND goal...the place would be going apeshit every week!

3-2 UND

I specifically stated my inference to people whom I showed the image to, which included no one from this thread at the time of writing. So, I'm a bit perplexed as to what the point of your comment is. If there's something I'm missing you would like to discuss, I'd be happy to.

I'm ok with your opinion and respect it. Not everyone is going to love everything. I think your point was already well-established, so not sure what you're trying to add.

Thank you for the comments. Removing the triangle would be alright. Most have seen the silhouette of the Sioux logo in the negative space of the feathers on the back. To your "final point", however, the jagged edge of the beak is actually a face (nostril is the eye) and the rest of the head of the bird is the headdress of the man. It's two Sioux heads in one. So, I would I disagree with having a rounded beak for that reason as it's design was very purposeful. Everyone I've shown Brien's new Hawk logo to think it's awesome. I know that doesn't mean everyone will love it, but I've never heard one good comment about our current logo from many dozens of people, yet haven't heard one negative comment about this one. It's a small sample size but I'm just sharing my experience. I personally think it's great as well and pays homage to the past will still looking towards the future. The current Hawk logo in use by the university is a jarring change from the past with little character to build from for the future. It's just a logo, nothing more. UND fans are used to having a logo that has pride and meaning beyond just being a logo.

The day that Brien's hawk logo came out I started tweaking on it. Here's what I came up with: Browned up the beak, much more green, but left the red and yellow to symbolize the same things that were symbolized on the Sioux head. Also added was a hockey jersey look. This is one of my earlier tweaks so still has more red in it. I didn't take the time to add "HAWKS" on it ala the old Sioux jerseys, but definitely would be a plus IMO.

It's recruiting. Brad took over an unforeseen change, kept the band together, and won a natty with a loose group of high-end talent. We've recruited some really good talent on the back-end and even goaltending, but we've been late to the game or non-existent on marquee front-end talent. It seems the theme is to go after strictly character players or leadership players more than straight up blue chip talent. I'm fairly certain (but haven't looked) that this year and last have less NHL draft picks than most rosters since pre-Hakstol. NHL talent isn't everything, but a team full of Rudy's ain't going to cut it either. Let's look past how inept our offense looks just trying to set something up and just see what kind of shots pass the eye test. Most of our shots look weak, soft, and inaccurate. It seems like some of these other teams always have guys wristing howitzers at the net. Combine our weak shots with the fact that so few of our shots are from quality areas due to sluggish skills to get pucks to open guys and you are going to be on the struggle bus as far as scoring. We're clearly recruiting the wrong forwards when a place like UND can be so short on talent and teams like Denver, Duluth, St. Cloud, and even Mankato are finding plenty of talent over us. Our forwards don't look better than Bemidji's most nights and that's a MAJOR problem.

Most fans I see don't willingly particpate in any cheer. A new Hawks cheer won't fulfill any voids (not worth noticing anyways). In Grand Forks there is no cheer! (No cheer!) That's why we just sit here! (Right here!) And when we're gone from here... The Ralph will still have no cheer!

I wasn't saying you're wrong. The players have to give the fans something to cheer for. However, when you need a spark, the fans also have an opportunity to help provide that.

Chicken or egg argument.

When does Coach Shaw become just Shaw?

Shhhhhh, don't type so loud.

Not here.

They reviewed the buzzer beater twice....the first time for goalie interference. Then they went in the box to check to see if Miami was offside. It turns out they were. As UNDBIZ said, UND played the puck while it was in the zone, so the refs called it a good goal. Now I'm not an official, so I don't know how the rule is defined exactly. Miami shot the puck into the zone from the near side with 18 seconds left (offside) and Miami was the first to play the puck after it rung around the boards with 15-16 seconds left, not UND. The far side Miami player took control and made a weak attempt at a shot towards the net from the far blue line that was blocked and subsequently controlled by UND with about 12 seconds left. That is the point they are using to call the play a good zone entry when I think it should have been dead once Miami played the puck on the far side. Because Miami played the puck first, not UND, shouldn't it still be offside?

I want to go somewhere that I'd vacation to without a hockey game. That means warm weather or an overabundance of things to see and do (or both). New York and Vegas have been great choices so far.

Las Vegas should be every four years with new places filling the gaps in-between. Vegas is nice because the weather is great, tons to do, easy to get there from anywhere. My idea would be something like this: 2016 - New York 2018 - Las Vegas 2020 - Nashville 2022 - Las Vegas 2024 - Seattle (I've heard very early rumors that they'd like to go here once the new arena is built) 2026 - Las Vegas 2028 - ?? (Washington DC? Los Angeles? Orlando? Dallas?) This way Vegas doesn't get overplayed, but we don't make it harder and harder to attend these events as new, prime destinations become scarcer to find.

Without sounding too overly negative, just about anywhere outside of REA is a great destination when packed with Sioux fans. You try to cheer at REA once the game starts and you borderline get hushed for disturbing those snapbooking or discussing beet prices.

Ralph Engelstad Library is kinda boring in relation to going to road venues where the Sioux fans are loud and proud.

The Oshie looks really good! If you REALLY want to be nitpicky, the spacing on the Oshie seems a tad off. In 2006-07 when the jersey debuted the kerning on the nameplate was very loosely spaced. For the following two years (2007-08 and 2008-09) the kerning was very tight (as you can see in the GWA link FGHTNSXHawkey14 posted). The nameplate on yours is somewhere in-between. This is an example of the 2006-07: It's not something I'd worry about as 99.99% of people would never catch that.

I don't catch many UND football games these days, but the few I've watched in the Bubba era, the offense is schemed about as well as any rural high school football team. It's so predictable. With that said, I think UND played much better than the score indicated, or Washington just didn't play well at all.

I think I only have 52s.

I have the logo as I spent hours of time researching and recreating it. The logo in the picture used is reasonably inaccurate due to whoever digitized it, but the actual art wasn't too bad. After more hours of research, I was able to fine tune some things even more to come up with an improved version for the Jersey Hall project at the Ralph. There was never anything to base the colors off of, so I tried to come up with something that presented as reasonably accurate, but in essence a total guess. It turns out, while in production, the actual crest was found by a fellow member here (I'll let him take credit, or remain anonymous if he chooses), but it turns out the colors were incredibly inaccurate. The Ralph chose not to have the colors changed to the accurate ones for internal reasons. I do have logos of both the Big Chief and Sammy Sioux, but I tend not to share them after having someone start profiting off of a logo in the past that I spent a lot of time on.

Looker has stated publicly that he has, and will have, his eyes set solely on Hennessy's job when the time comes. I think Looker is awesome at the PA stuff, but having heard him call women's games on the radio sparingly, the energy wasn't there that Tim brings. Tim is the best in the business, so it's like trying to replace Michael Jordan...you just can't do it. When looking at it that way, Darin might be just fine.

It was, but no longer.