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Gino did more for UND with less than Berry has. The end of Gino's tenure was not good, but with a new coach, things quickly turned around again. What I want is to get rid of Berry before it starts looking like how it ended for Gino. He's had plenty of time to improve things, but it's more of the same. NCHC regular season titles are weak sauce and drastically overstated. There's a reason only three different teams have won a regular season NCHC title in 11 seasons. This program is predicated on post-season success, not regular season.

Of all the resources UND can control, UND has the best of everything. UND can't control if they have mountains to look at out the window. They can't control having 70 degree weather in January. They can't control if the USNTDP is in their backyard. But, every last dollar has gone to giving Brad everything he could possibly want to improve the program. REA and UND have spared virtually no expense. He has the rich tradition and HAD recent success to piggyback off of. He has a great fanbase and UND was known as NHL U...a program that was run like an NHL team and developed kids to be pro hockey ready. No one talks about us in that regard anymore. Also, your own "reading comprehension is hard" quote is quite the bit of irony with your post. For me, national titles aren't an expectation. It should always be the target at a place like UND, though. What I want is to be in the conversation on a reasonably regular basis for one though. I don't think it's wrong to think we should make a Frozen Four on a somewhat regular basis, but we can't even get out of the first round unless we play AIC...if we even make the tournament at all. The title was 9 years ago and it's been pretty rough sailing ever since. Again, in a one-and-done format, you can't ever expect national championships. But, I think you can expect to win regional games more than we have. Honest question @Goon ...What would it take for you to think Berry is no longer the right coach?

Berry's been saying the same sh*t for years because it's been years since his team has done anything in the post-season. We aren't jumping ship because this is the first bad Brad Berry year. This is one of many and he's had plenty of chances to correct course and it's just more of the same. I don't think NCHC titles are all they're cracked up to be and don't do much to excite a fan base. All it means is you outperformed 3-4 other teams over the course of a 24 game conference schedule (bad teams omitted from conversation). Nobody is saying we should win a national championship every year, that's silly, but we haven't had our name in the conversation of one going on almost a decade. Again, this isn't the first sign of weakness from UND. The team has every resource under the sun and it makes no difference.

What's negative about what I wrote? 16th in the nation is still decent, but total goals is entirely meaningless when A) Total goals are so darn close, and B) we've played as many as three more games than many nearby teams. Take away our last three games and that puts us in 23rd in goals. I didn't even mention Berry, so try again. #KeepShilling

That bald ref has it out for UND

Media timeout helps Bama here. A little panic started to set in there.

We’ve terrible luck with the bounces of the rim on our bunnies this half.

War Eagle[staff]

Best player on the floor for either team tonight.

It was fun while it lasted.

These guys are flopping everywhere and the one bald ref gives them every call. Frustrating.

I’ve seen one singular photo and it’s been years since I saw it. Also, being so old, the resolution was pretty minimal. I vaguely remember it being a photo from the upper bowl giving a general view of the arena and atmosphere. I did a quick search to no avail. I feel like I saw it on AP or Getty Images, but again, this was years ago.

Total goals is mostly meaningless. UND is 16th in goals per game playing a marginally more difficult than average strength of schedule.

There's a whole book of reasons that I don't think Berry should be the head coach at UND, but this graph visually explains one of those reasons. The following aren't all facts, some just observations, and are in no particular order. 1) How do you quantify good coaching? It's hard to ask that to anyone, even hockey/coaching experts, much less an internet forum. It's a worthless question. Ask Bobby Knight how to coach, ask Nick Saban how to coach, ask Coach K how to coach and you'll get three different answers. There's no right or wrong way, but the common denominator of a good coach is winning. Sometimes you're a good coach when you're good among your peers, like at a small program far outside the view of the national stage. But, UND is one of the keystones of the national stage in college hockey, and UND doesn't act or play like it anymore. NCHC wins are great, but winning outside of that is a struggle. 2) What's the fan perception? Everyone has an opinion, and those opinions can vary wildly. Some want Berry to stay, some what Berry to go, but words are mostly meaningless. What are the ACTIONS of those fans? Fans still show up to games, but there are frequently open seats and the buzz at the Ralph as at a lower level than in a long time. UND used to do special destination games every two years, but interested waned so much in those that they stopped doing them altogether. Now, they're going back to a another destination game after a hiatus, albeit at a smaller arena. Why has fan interest waned when ticket sales and prices for events are reaching all time highs in many other forms of sport and entertainment? 3) Is the program better now than when Berry started? This can in no logical way be true. When Berry came in, we were essentially NHL U. The program was run like an NHL team and UND was the talk of college hockey every year despite the national championship drought. The national pundits talk so infrequently in comparison these days and no one seems scared of playing a team like UND anymore. The resources off the ice have never been better and yet the product on the ice has not in any way improved. 4) The story about Berry's behind-the-scenes "Nodak" wordmark incident was conveniently swept under the rug, but the truth is pretty damning. The only saving grace of the situation, if true, is that Berry hadn't yet profited from it. But this was the UND Hockey version of Hunter Biden and Burisma and that's all I'll say. 5) The Berry fan bois think that all this Berry talk stems from how this season has started. It's beyond short-sighted and ignorant to play that card. This whole topic has been a growing tumor from our lack of post-season success...ultimately that's the standard for a program like UND. It doesn't mean that the anti-Berry crowd is demanding a national championship every year, it's that we barely sniffed a Frozen Four once in the past eight seasons. UND missed the NCAA tournament 3 times in a 7 year stretch, the only three times in the entire history of the 16 team NCAA tournament. Our only NCAA win since the [awesome] title is against AIC, a team now going Division II. But, that championship is going on NINE years old. Let's get a fresh face.

He's had plenty of other chances to win a single tournament game after the national championship and has only managed to do it once. How many tries do we give this guy? Honest question, how long do you think Berry should stay and what would it take for you to think he should be removed?