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Providence College looked really good today. They will give BU or UND all they can handle on Saturday night.
Hard to tell if PC is that good or Blais is just that bad.
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It gotta go with 6 if he gets a faceoff in the Ozone.
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If this two-goal lead continues, what's the over/under on how many minutes left before Dean pulls Massa?
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I wonder if gfhockey is going to pull Deano aside between periods and ask him a simple quesiton
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Good luck today, boys. '
And I hope all of us fans can overcome the anxiety enough to appreciate how lucky we are to have a program like this to root for.
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Am I the only one that wouldn't want to see him play even if he was cleared today? I think you have to have fully healthy bodies on the ice. No weak spots. Plus, I wouldn't want to test his rust in a one and done format.
After the boys get #8 and are invited to go on tour, maybe he can suit up.
The folks in the twin cities would probably pay to see some championship hockey.
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Wow. I know it's a highlight reel, but the kid can control the puck. Haven't seen him play yet, Hope I'm disappointed.
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Jason Herter was drafted #8 overall in the 1989 draft.
Best slapper I've seen by a Sioux. Hard to compare the velocity of modern shots against the old woodies, though.
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Exactly. I'm not for Hakstol's release at this point (not that it would matter anyway), but it's important for people when they're debating a point to step outside their entrenched (& I mean ENTRENCHED) beliefs/views & at least try to understand the other's point. To be fluid with one's perspective & entertain the notion that maybe that other person just might have a valid point, even if it may take a few beers to wrap his mind around that other person's thought. For me, it seems like many people go their entire lives clinging to a certain belief & they will die or defend that belief because they just cannot see themselves accepting anything else; almost like they made a vow to that belief & it would be completely unacceptable for them to even entertain changing it. I'm talking generally here, not necessarily as it applies to Hakstol. These rigid thinking patterns seem to be more ironclad in people's mind than prison bars.
It's called confirmation bias, and it is something we all have to be careful to avoid. Tavris and Aronson wrote an excellent book on it called "Mistakes Were Made (but not by me)," which is an excellent read for everyone.
If my school has a coach who has lost control of his players or is consistently performing poorly, like missing the tournament consistently, I would probably conclude that he needs to go and that it will not be very difficult to replace him with a person who will do better. If I have a coach who ranks in the top three coaches nationwide in win percentage, frozen four appearances, etc, but I can identify a coaching flaw that leads me to conclude that coach will probably never win a banner, I will strongly consider firing him, but I would be very careful about it and would have to be convinced that the replacement is likely to be better, all things considered. That is a tougher call the better the current coach is performing.
I think it is amusing when posters here complain that they cannot criticize Hakstol. I don't think I'm alone in saying people should be able to freely criticize him, but if that criticism is limited to personal frustration that we haven't won a banner, then be prepared for others to expect you to identify the basis in terms more helpful than "he hasn't won one yet." To say that people are being shouted down so they cannot criticize Hak is creating a strawman.
I have stated that I think he is a great program coach, perhaps the best we have ever had, but I'm not convinced he has reached the point where his game coaching has reached that level. He has certainly done both jobs well this year. Up to this point, he should be in the running for coach of the year. But we will see how we do in Boston. If we win two games, that will be all some people need. If we lose, I will want to know what the better-informed hockey people identify as the reason. Either way, I really like this bunch and what the coaching staff has done with them.
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If a spouse cheats, does the other spouse need to know the intricate details of why that spouse cheated, or can that person just end it & get a divorce? Or, if a coach of a revered program goes for a long drought without a NC, does the fanbase need to give an intricate coaching analysis of why they are terminating him, or can they just terminate him for someone who may be more sophisticated in all points of the game? It's not an emotional reaction; it's a conclusion based on the very tangible result that no national championships have been won over a long duration. Cut & dry. .... I'm not implying anything about Hakstol, seriously, just trying to understand your rationale, so no burning parties tonight from the mob, please ....
Not much to chew on there, but I'll give it a shot. In a divorce, one person makes a decision on his or her own future (although it may involve kids). It is a one-step process--no immediate replacement is necessary and, in most states replacement within 6 months results in an invalid marriage.
You may wish to divorce yourself from Sioux hockey, and that is your choice. But if the AD or athletic board "divorces" a coach, they will have to replace him or her soon afterward unless they want the players to coach themselves. So if you hope to avoid your previous mistake or even making things much worse, you better have given serious thought to who that replacement will be and why he is likely to make things better and not worse.
I've been critical of Hak myself, and I have no problem with fans getting on his case. But just wanting him gone because he has not won a title and nothing more is not criticism, it's whining.
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Let's face it: the "no banner" argument, though understandable, is an emotional one, not an analytical one.
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So you want a longer explanation? Well, here it is:
Hakstol has had a long laundry list of talent come through this program since he took it over in 2004. Cripes, he had Toews (future NHL Hall of Famer), Oshie (NHL All-Star) and Duncan (2007 Hobey Baker Memorial Award winner) on the same team and on the same line. And that wasn't enough to hang #8. If you really want to sit there and say Hakstol hasn't had the players, go right on ahead. That doesn't make it true. Because it isn't. That is one example of how Hakstol's teams produce in the regular season and the conference tournament (most years anyway, certainly not this year), but then crash and burn in the NCAA's. And I believe a 1-6 Frozen Four composite record is crashing and burning, especially some of those blowouts to Boston College. You know, the team that doesn't use excuses like "parity", "one and done", "hot goalie" and so on and just gets it done when they have the players to get it done.
And please don't tell me that Tom Izzo has the same caliber of talent that Duke and Kentucky have had over the years. Those two programs are always stacked with McDonald's All-Americans and future NBA lottery picks. I don't think Izzo has sent all that many kids to the NBA or had a bunch of McDonald's All-Americans on the roster at the same time. His teams simply are well-coached, well-prepared and take advantage of match-ups that the coaches find for their players to exploit. Kind of what Wisconsin did to Kentucky last night. And what UConn did to Kentucky last year.
Even without the athletes that Duke, North Carolina and Kentucky have on a perennial basis, Izzo has done more with less during his entire tenure. Meanwhile Hakstol took over a program with a full cupboard left behind by Blais and hasn't won a single NCAA title. And, like it or not, hanging NCAA banners is what separates the elite hockey programs from the merely good hockey programs. And I honestly care more about the status of the program as a whole than how many guys we send to the NHL (more often the AHL or Europe). That is the point I was making. And I will stand by it. End rant.
I get what you are saying, fighting, and many of us share the frustration, but there is not one word of actual coaching analysis in that post. There has been very little criticism of Hak's coaching on this forum--just frustration about not winning #8.
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I would say that Izzo has done more with less, while Hakstol has done less with more. Flame away if you wish, but that is the truth.
Nothing wrong with criticism. Anyone who accepts a head coaching job of a top program and all the money and prestige that comes with it must expect to be criticized. But what exactly about his on-ice or off-ice coaching to you think has been below par? We can all count to one (banner), but understanding the game well enough to identify what will work better is more difficult. I'm sure there are a lot of people who know the game well who don't like Hak's coaching, but all I ever hear on here is the banner shortfall. That might be the result of inferior coaching, but it is not the cause of it.
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This is my worry every tournament since it's killed us in the past. The nice thing is that UNDs style of play has evolved a lot over the past few years.
I agree. You have to adjust if you want to succeed.
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I was just going to suggest that Luke Johnson is a shoot first kind of guy. Even if that shot is at the goal line, he's taking it. Hopefully those three recruits have the speed and hustle to avoid the same benching cries that LJ got this year.
Bucks. Shoot from anywhere, anytime, anyhow.
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That's what I like about Wilkie, he's a shoot-first, ask questions later kind of guy. We don't need any more polite, PC-oriented players who are burdened with too many manners & are always looking to pass. We need selfish players like Wilkie who know they can score goals to just go out & shoot. And if he ever gets a wild hair up his arse during a shift next year that it's alright to pass, bench him for a couple shifts until he gets back into his selfish shoot-only mindset. Kind of like having a Brett Hull; spend the entire game trying to get the puck in his wheelhouse. It'll be nice to have a player or two or three like him. So at least next year we'll have at least a couple of forwards who were baptized in the Brett Hull denomination of Holy Rippers & not just a squad of all passers. Looking good ....
I gotta hear what a "PC-oriented player" is.
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http://www.youtube.com/embed/jcwAFV3Hl_U
doubt my linking abilities will work, but watch for the crowd shot.
That first goal should be a lesson to kids why they dig their azz to the net when the Dman is about to shoot the puck. JT dishes to the D, then immediately fights to get to the goal before the puck is even shot. He hustles just a little less and there's no goal.
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Spot on. I'd rather be big man on campus playing in front of large crowds vs riding a bus and playing in front of smaller crowds.
You have to remember, though, that these guys have been playing the step-up game since they were in pee wees. They've had to leave teams and schoolmates many times to further their dream to play for money--sometimes against the odds--and their moves have all been successful up to this point. I'm sure they all love their life at the Ralph playing the game and hanging out with teammates, but for some of them the school side of it is probably something they would rather do without.
And we can't expect them to be as old and wise as we all are.
But boy, what a great bunch of young men this team has. Win, lose, or draw, it's been such a pleasure this year.
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You snort a line with Deano you are in for some fun times, let me tell you.
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I may be stating the obvious to some here, but do people not realize that gfhockey's sole purpose here is to get under people's skin & derail threads? Yet people still engage him in this cat & mouse, back-&-forth talk like they're going to get somewhere with him, year after year after year. And it's usually the same people who keep trying to put him in his place & talk sense to him. Played! I know I'm pouring fuel on the situation as he thrives on attention & I won't address it anymore, but I thought it funny how some guy is able to toy & tick people off around here like a maestro; using otherwise very smart people like a tool. Which he enjoys doing immensely, obviously; his schtick is to come off as a dumb one, but he's clearly getting the last laugh on each one who replies to his posts. Anyway, it's funny to read, it's like he serves as a subconscious release valve & bull's-eye for Sioux fan's latent angst....Personally, I find him funny & refreshing to read sometimes; yet find it hilarious how he plays with people's heads all the time. If he can get away with it & people still bite at this posts, no need for him to stop.
Longest post I've ever seen gfhockey get out of anyone.
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gfhockey is taking night classes at UND to improve his writing
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I will start the one vs bu but will not be giving Und the advantage vs uno
I want a heads up game. Coach vs coach. Team vs team.
If you don't want a nattie for UND, that's on you.
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Pretty hard for college programs to complain about the pros preying on college age kids when colleges are recruiting kids who are still teething.
That said, I agree a lot of kids are making a mistake by leaving early.
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I just wish Minnesota had wanted him.
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GDT: Sioux vs puppies who pee on the porch
in Men's Hockey
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Not a single player or coach on this team has anything to apologize for. Fans of this team should be proud of the way they have played and the way they handled themselves this year.
I would go all in that they have outperformed the way their loudest critics perform their own day jobs.