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Teeder11

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  1. Neither was Brien's FS logo .... But it evolved in our minds as a great one -- dare I say a legendary one.
  2. "Dr. Kennedy, Mark Emmert on Line 1. Says it's urgent."
  3. My contention, though, is that what makes a logo matter is what comes in the years and decades after it's released and not so much the "look" of the image. It's the "added value" of championships, shared heart-aches and favorite players who wore the logo and fought for us proudly on the playing field that makes these images something to be proud of.
  4. Much truth here. Time and tradition are amazing antidotes for unpopular change.
  5. User Actions Following Zach Willis‏@zachwillis57 After a lot of thinking these past few weeks i have my mind made up and I've decided to move my commitment date to July 4th. RETWEET1 LIKES20 9:34 PM - 27 Jun 2016 1 retweet20 likes Reply Retweet 1 Like 20 More
  6. I would think Cashman's career is done at UND. Too bad. Hope he gets the help he needs.
  7. Though I'd like to see Will get a shot a LB as much as anyone, I like his chances of making the 90-man roster at back-up FB and maybe some special teams work. http://atlantafalcons.blog.myajc.com/2016/06/27/5-things-to-know-about-the-falcons-this-week-12/
  8. The Alumni Association commissioned him to do it, not the school. The AA gifted the art to the school at a later time.
  9. That's funny.... I missed that one. It is a fun game, though.
  10. Since we're sharing anecdotes. I showed it to my 10 year old daughter, and she glanced at it and said "cool, I guess. Whatever. Can I go downstairs and play Super Mariokart, dad?" Needless to say no tears were shed.
  11. As I recall, the UND Alumni Association, under Earl Strinden, commissioned Ben to do a piece of art for them that was based on the old FS Indian head logo -- but not as a logo -- as a piece of art. Now there are some who argue, and Earl probably could tell us for sure, that Earl always hoped that Ben's work could one day be adopted as a new logo (which it eventually was). Earl gifted the art to the University at the time that Kupchella was president. Kupchella was the one who began the process of converting the artwork to a logo, but, as I am told, it was problematic at first because of all of the detail that was involved in Brien's artwork (which I detailed in my original post). UND worked with a sports logo designer to work out some of those issues until they came up with what we ultimately know today as the Ben Brien Indian head logo. I hope I'm not revising history too much... but that is my recollection from listening to folks in the know.
  12. I have said before that I did not like the Brien logo when it first came out because it was not a true logo. Ben originally made it as a work of art and not as a sports team logo. When UND adopted it as a sports logo, I was less than thrilled for many reasons. It was too intricate with too many colors to easily identify and replicate as a true sports logo on caps, t-shirts and uniforms -- way too busy. Another less important factor, was the symbolism of looking backward. Some would argue that this was a nod to history but it also conveys a sense of entrenchment and backward thinking instead of moving forward. It seams that most of Ben's attempts at logos now have this left-pointing orientation. All that said, the logo grew on me over time as and I learned to love it and be proud of it because of the history and tradition attached to it and because it represented my alma mater. But not everyone was enamored with from the get go.
  13. That's a key reason why I am ok with letting the interlocking ND go to mothballs. We had it first but Notre Dame trademarked it before we did and has made it their brand.
  14. Yeah... faculty are independent contractors who don't like to toe the University line, especially the ones with tenure, they're almost invincible. Now if you're asking me if I liked the way that that vocal minority of UND rabble talked down the old nickname and logo and the University, then I will submit to you an emphatic NO.
  15. It sucks. I can't stand that image.
  16. I think what's being argued is that they can have their opinions and state them in a way that is less divisive to the community, similar to what we've seen from Bubba, Prior, Brewster and a number of UND athletes yesterday. Kind of like when I was in the Army... I had all kinds of opinions about the President and the U.S. government, and even though I was not censored and knew my 1st Amendment rights, when in the presence of media, my comments were truthful but certainly not divisive to the nation nor the commander in chief.
  17. Caveat: I never let myself say nice things about the the kids from goofy land: --So let's get this straight... the goofers have a horrible name and logo. It survives on history and tradition but as a stand alone image it all sux, and had something like that been unveiled at UND yesterday, the pitchforks and torches would have been out instead of just hyperbolic opinions over the Internets!
  18. Bubba's speech today made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. He said it best.
  19. Don't kid yourself. There's no way that UND was going to be able to hit a home run with this thing. Too damn heated. Too damn divisive. Too damned much butt hurt. Too subjective. The best we could have hoped for was a slow dribbler up the first base line with the faint possibility that Buckner was there waiting to receive it. Even if God, Himself, would have designed it and delivered it with with a Herald of Angels... it would have been pretty much universally panned. Just the way it is. No surprise.
  20. No clue. Was a three-star recruit (QB with a little WR) out of the Houston Metro, and was just recently named the #42 Best College Football Player in all of Texas, albeit for a horse crap FBS team.
  21. A "C" would be huge! And that's not a dig toward SME. Fingers crossed.
  22. Schafer is one and Faison is the other ..... your guess is as good as mine as to whom to attribute the grades to. Jk.
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