sultan

Jealousy and petulance enters into every conversation here because...Because Bison fans come on here and spoil every attempt to carry on a civil and adult conversation about sports topics. They turn every topic into either anti-Sioux or pro-Bison rhetoric. It's gets real old. They should keep all that banter at their website. They specialize in that sort of talk there.

Dan sure seems to have a rather large interest in the quality of kids were recruiting to UND. I'm not exactly sure why he is so possessed with UND, but he sure is. I think the fact that 2 Fargo kids and 1 Devils Lake kid chose UND over NDSU must of really of hit a nerve.

That is, I meant to say is we will both be going after the SAME players on a consistent basis.

I don't particularly think anyone is saying Mertens or May are any worse or better than a player at NDSU. The bottom line is they were recruited by both schools. UND is in the early stages of building a DI program and both players could potentially be nice additions to our program. It is just very interesting that when players make a choice to chose UND over NDSU that those players all of a sudden become very ordinary or untalented players in the eyes of NDSU fans. These are just the early stages of what recruiting is going to be like for NDSU and UND in the future. We will be both be going after the players on a consistent basis. Good luck to both schools.

Dan..What street were you on in Fargo when you heard that? It is kind of a mute point since there clearly wasn't any scholarship money left for next year. Dan... I see your back for more again today. Once again I guess you just can't get along without us. Mertens might just have played against some good players along the way in the Junior Colleges. Are you famaliar with everyone he played against? It seems like there can be some pretty good players in JC's. Didn't Andre Smith come from a JC.

I was talking about the populations of the metro area or cities where the stadiums are located. I am sure if you want to start figuring counties a person could come up with very interesting statistics. Gosh if you want to look at populations of cities within 60 or so miles it might show different figures. We could count Grafton and Crookston and you could count Detroit Lake, Fergus Falls, Wahpeton and Valley City. Blah, Blah, Blah. Go ahead and spin the figures however you want. I'm sure you can come up with something that works for you. I was waiting for you to spin the figures on how doesn't UND have more people pass through the turnstiles for our sports programs than NDSU does. Go ahead and fire away. You bison fans sure spend a lot of time on Sioux sites. You just can't get us out of your system. Once again, thanks for caring. Don't you have anything to talk about over there?

The Fargo Forum didn't need to have a major article on the story. But the main point is that I feel it is a little odd that Channel 4(5:30) , Channel 11 , and WDAY sports didn't even put one line in their sports broadcasts about the signing. He was a Mr. Basketball in North Dakota who was being recruited by four Division I schools. Two of those being UND and NDSU. I beleive that warranted an acknowledgement on sports. Was that JUCO player from Wahpeton a native North Dakotan or a former Mr. Basketball.

On second thought... Even though UND sells a lot more tickets for all their sports than NDSU, our lead might not be as large as I think it is. I forgot there are a lot of Bison fans that make the trip to Grand Forks to buy tickets for Sioux Hockey games. Thanks again for all the support. NDSU fans are real troopers.

Let's see. Fargo, Moorhead, and West Fargo have apopulation of 180,000. Grand Forks and East Grand Forks have a population of less than 60,00. We average just under 10,000 for football games. NDSU averages 16,000 for football games. By comparative populations we show up better than your residents do. And to top that...when you add up the numbers of people that pass through the gates at home games for Bison athletic events in Fargo in all their sports it isn't even close to the total that pass through the gates for Sioux games in Grands Forks. Oh that is right.. NDSU doesn't have Hockey. That is your problem. UND fans supports our programs better than NDSU fans. Our total ticket sales(which is larger than NDSU) are just divided over more sports.

Dan...did you catch the Sioux Men's and Women's basketball shows on TV this season? I never did see the bison shows.

Over the years the Forum has listed walk ons in their newspaper. They just got done listing walk ons for the Bison football team. I will stand behind what I said. Since NDSU was going up against Montana St., Weber ST. and yes the Sioux, I have a feeling they would have had a story about Mertens coming to NDSU. I guess we won't know since he chose UND over NDSU.

The ironic part of the whole media situation is that I think the signing of Mertens was actually a bigger story than the signing of Jordan May. The signing of May brought a lot of media attention and yet the signing of Mertens brought almost no media attention. I think some of the previous responders are right. When a recruit chose UND over NDSU it was worthy of attention. When it happened again within a week that was just to much. People from NDSU called to complain about the way the story read in the signing of May last week. That complaining must of scared the media to basically not cover the signing of Mertens. I wonder what the coverage of the story would have been like if he had signed with NDSU. I have a feeling it would of been totally different. Interesting!!!!!

Channel 4/11 television sports didn't go with the Mertens story either. And of course Steve Hallstrom and WDAY in Fargo didn't go with the story either. The Forum didn't go with Wayne Nelson's article either. Wayne's story was cut way down. I suppose they didn't like the headline of Mertens choosing the Sioux over the Bison. They all must of caught way too much crap last week about their coverage of the Jordan May signing. It is sort of sad. Mertens deserved the acknowledgement. KBRR had a nice story on the signing though. Kudos to them.

It's the print and television media out of Fargo that keep asking the question about renewing a Sioux/bison game. And of course bison fans constantly talk about it on their blogs and chat lines. By the way, are you lost again Dan. You sure spend a lot of time on this website. Your our best fan. If your end of the valley didn't keep bringing it up it would go away.

Dan definitely needs a pacifier. Would someone please get him back to his home? He is lost again.

dan ...are you back again? I guess what you don't understand is that you don't contribute anything meaningful to either point of view. There simply isn't anything adult or wise about anything you ever say to any conversation. Can't you simply take a hint and find a place where somebody might actually appreciate anything you have to say. It is sad to have any person waste their time reading anything you contribute to a conversation.

Is bison dan lost again. Would someone please take him by the hand and bring him home? He spends all his time on the Sioux site. He must be quite a Sioux fan. He just can't get UND out of his system. I think it is time for him to move on. We want to have quality conversation about the Sioux on this site and not his useless banter about the bison and how he loves the Sioux. Once again it is time for dan to go home.

Does anybody know or remember just how good Carson Neuman was the year they played the Bison? I really don't care what they did previous years. NDSU usually bases everything about the strength of their schedule on what teams did in the past and not how strong they actually were the year NDSU plays them. NDSU fans are apparently worried that our schedule isn't tough enough. They usually say we don't try to schedule good teams. This year we tried our best to get as tough of schedule as possible. Some of those tough teams were even penciled on the schedule till they backed out on us. I think they need to stop worrying about us. For all the spouting off their doing, their having a hard time filling their own schedule right now . There done with transition and the mighty bison can't fill there own schedule. Maybe they should worry more about themselves and less about UND.

Walrus is right. The schedule is pretty good considering what has gone on in the last few months at UND. WE have a lame duck anti sports President, the AD hasn't been hired and we lost our football coach. It's almost amazing we have the schedule we have. It is not like UND didn't try . From what I've heard, we tried our darnest to get San Diego, Butler, Cal Poly, McNeese State and NDSU. The combination of being a non-counter next year and the success that we have had in football (beating UNI for example) really hurts us. I'm sure some of those teams we almost had on the schedule simply didn't think the chance of losing to us was worth the risk. It will get a whole lot better after next year. Maybe we can still get Cal Poly this year. I'm crossing my fingers.

Bison Dan is a little mixed up about whose fans are more concerned about the other school. Dan spends all his day on the UND site. The crazy thing about it is he gets taken to the wood shed every time he comes over here and yet he never goes away. He is either not very bright or he is just to obsessed with UND to quit. Someone needs to help him get back home. He just seems to be wandering aimlessly. He just seems lost. Maybe now we can get some real dialogue going without Dan just inserting worthless dribble.

You bison fans shouldn't be pointing fingers about attendance for playoff games. Since you haven't hosted a playoff game for 20 years I would hope if you ever host one again you would have some butts in the seats. That's a fact jack.

Sioux fans didn't have a problem with who was on NDSU's schedule that year. Sioux fans had a problem with Bison fans trying to portray the teams on their schedule as all being world beaters. NDSU people have a habit of making everyone they play a lot better than they really are. UND could possibly end up with a couple of weaker teams but I don't beleive we will try to sell a Montana Tech or Valpo as the the best thing since sliced bread.

Is the Gopher hockey game on the Sioux Sports Network TV tonight? The Herald says it is but on the Sioux Hockey site says it is only on Fox Sports Net channel.

The Sioux football show having higher ratings makes sense. I did have a hard time keeping a straight face when I think about the Bison basketball show having higher ratings though.

Cavil sure gave a lot of reasons why he chose UND. How did so many things change. Apparently some of those things weren't as important as he said. It just comes off sounding a little phony. Somebody must of done a real good sales job on him after commiting.