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Great Photo. Who are they and what unit are they with? Are they still there? If so, we should arrange for game tapes etc. to be sent. They should blow that up and put it in the locker rooms. Nice way of keeping sports in perspective. If one of you who works for the university Athletic Dept sees this, send it to the new AD and the coaches.

I thought Belmore had one of his better games. He had 3 passes dropped by receivers and other than the fumbles and two missed deep balls did a great job. UND's staff is so conservative it has to hard to get into any rythm with the passing game at times. The vertical passing game is there if they are willing to go to it. Maybe didn't have to because they got the run going and the spread short stuff was there.

I hope you know that someone will accept this as fact and use it to send to the NCAA or bring it up to any tribal council as proof of how dangerous it is around ol' Grand Forks. . It can be fun to jerk someone's chain once in a while but if you really believe that you are having too many Bloody Marys for breakfast.

Neither is D1AA.

You are the racist here Kracker. You are the one who has called an artist a "rabbit choker" because he is Chippewa. You are the one who frequently has made derogatory remarks about others because of their heritage. You are the one who makes reference to who the "real Sioux" or the "hang around the Fort" Indians are. You have made insulting remarks to the Hispanic American poster. My comments are not based on on your race but your ignorance. Your ignorant remarks are what has earned you the distain of most of the posters here. That is likely what causes your sufferings, not your American Indian heritage but because you act like such a jerk. When you first posted, a number of people on this board wished to understand something that most of us don't. You had an opportunity for an intelligent discourse and to could have shared the feelings of those who oppose the name. You never answered most of the questions asked and you frequently insulted anyone who didn't understand or agree with your racist rantings. No, I didn't bring children into the issue, that was done previously by the opponents of the name who continually talk about the shame their children have when they see the Fighting Sioux logo and name used with UND ahtletic teams. They were brought into the issue by the picketers who drag their children wherever they go. Read some of Doreen Yellowbird's columns about the remarks Native American children suffer from because of the Fighting Sioux name. I don't expect you to remember that because I think that would be beyond your capability. You are too filled with hate to have room in your head for other thoughts. Your people already got some of my family's money. My Mom helped Native American kids with their reading skills and my Dad employed Native Americans in the 1960's from the Job Corps training program. He took them groceries when they didn't have enough to feed the kids because there was no father around and the relatives who overpopulated the apartment used the money from their jobs to drink. They did it because when they were young, someone helped them. They did it because someone had a need, not because they were Native American. They saw people as human beings not Native Americans. You didn't and couldn't take their money. It was given willingly. You seem to be too damn dumb to see how many people on this board care about the real issues facing your people and many of the people on this board are in a position to help others including Native Americans. Your rantings won't keep people from helping, but the insults from the Tribal leaders and other Native American leaders will affect how people feel and how they will act. I too have met President Kupchella and I doubt he is losing sleep over what you or any of us think of him. You seem to get some perverse pleasure in being able to insult him. You claim "never once did your tribal leaders give UND permission to use the name". In the next sentence you waffle and say "even if they did, does that make it OK for an entire Sioux Nation". Well Kracker, it did at that time. What happened to the respect for your elders? You have never once answered that. Without their permission this never would have occured. You are too wrapped up in this issue of beating ol' whitey that you won't even entertain the thought of using the issue as a bridge between cultures. Some day you can sit with your grandkids and say "I spent a lot of time insulting those F---ing white guys, while some other white guys (the NCAA) got the name changed for us". Your hatred seems to have blinded you to opportunities. You could be able to sit and say "kids these are the programs that Grandpa helped bring to the reservation to expand our technology and improve our education and our economy. Good choice Kracker, what a legacy you have chosen for yourself. You didn't "bite back" you didn't do much of anything but entertain most of us with your little bark. You are not fighting for equality, you are whining about a logo that some of your elders said was OK for UND to use. There is a big difference.

Kracker, Your recent postings show evidence of your ignorance and racism. I could care less if UND changes the name to the Fighting Irish or leaves it the Fighting Sioux. Your crude remarks about Kuppy go beyond what a self proclaimed tough guy like yourself should be doing. I have never been a big Kupchella fan but to call him names on a board like this shows what you are made of and what you lack. Your previous remarks about the Chippewa artist, Bennet Brien, being a "rabbit choker" is a good example of your racist attitude and inability to process thoughts that might exist other than your own. Your thinly veiled threats to those who disagree with you should they dare come over to the NA cultural center show your propensity for violence (especially if you have the advantage). If you want the name changed, you and the tribal leaders step up and address the true issues of what your elders and ancestors did years ago. They gave UND permission to use the name. You may disagree with their decision, but to simply ignore that fact is why many people will be angry. If you and the tribal leaders wish it changed, then offer to participate in the change process and assume some of the substantial cost required to make the change. Stop the whining about how you think the UND issue is going to confuse your children about their heritage and raise them with enough pride in their culture to know the difference between racism and an athletic team name that their ancestors thought was a good idea. Raise those kids with a Mom and Dad who are commited to the family and getting those kids a good education. Be an example of what an adult should be so your kids have someone to look up to other than Russell Means, the Bellecourts, Banks etc. If you think this type of reference to Native Americans with athletic teams is derogatory, then change the reservation school names and logos first to show you really are affected and hurt by the use of these names. Quit blaming every wrongdoing and tough break you get in life on others and step up to the plate with something positive and productive. Be grateful to those people both NA and other cultures who have made the sacrifices necessary for you to get an education and increase your chance of success. You may find that, if in fact, the Native American people are no longer willing to understand our culture and the diversity inherent in our culture, that we will no longer interact with your culture the same. Many will stop going to NA casinos and buying NA products. People like me may stop tutoring NA kids or supporting Native American language progams in our schools. Not because of the Fighting Sioux issue, but because of the hateful and racist way you and others interact with our culture. Not because of any NCAA verdict or ruling but because of the insulting way these tribal leaders and officials have treated our state and University. If in fact these tribal leaders are speaking for the majority of NA, many people will simply avoid the reservations when we can. How is that gong to help your kids? We already face a crisis in the Middle East because of the hate taught children toward those who are different. You have done your best to convince me and others that we are not welcome to interact with your culture unless it is on your terms and in your time. That is not a healthy relationship in any culture. Does this mean you no longer want us to spend money in your casinos and on the NA products? Do we need to lobby our state officials to allow all of our citizens to be able to open and operate cosinos instead of only the Native Americans? Those are only a couple of the questions I would have asked the group gathered at Spirit Lake gathering.

To compare the racism of the South with racism against Native Americans has some validity. To compare either, to the use of the Fighting Sioux name by UND is an insult to anyone who has had to face the real issues of racism. Stick to the subject at hand. I don't think anyone has been hanged because of the Fighting Sioux name. You may want it changed and I respect that difference of opinion. but to compare it to the racism of the South (with the KKK), get real.

agree.

I wouldn't make the mistake of discounting the quality of football in North Dakota. Considering the population of N.Dak. it is pretty good. What Dressler has is speed. I saw the same games last year and his speed is what sets him apart. You have to catch him to hit him and addition to being fast he is quick. I think he could play RB and he is going to be a great receiver. I would use him where ever they can get the ball in his hands. Maybe both. I think both Strouth and Beatty had good games Sat. didnt' they?

Think this one through a little bit. Some of the Twin Cities (and for that matter other big cities) suburban schools have some of the best teams in the state. Around the country some of the best programs are private schools with tuitions in the $5000 to $20,000 range. Those are not all poor kids on scholarship. I think Vern Muir can turn the program around and I wouldn't classify the RR kids as a bunch of rich kids. If you don't have a great off season and in season speed and strength program you are much less likely to have success. Any school where the head coach of any sport tells his athletes not to do other sports should be corrected. In our school district that can get you fired if you don't respond to corrective counseling. What many coaches suffer from are the parents of any kids who will not support what they need to do to turn the program around. It also takes patience on behalf of the kids parents and school officials. If Vern sets up his program and makes it clear what his expectations are and what the consequences are for failing to participate the kids and parents will eventually buy into it. The so called cake eaters if you have them will either improve their work ethic or move on to other pursuits. That means if you are supposed to be in the weight room 3 days a week in the summer and you can't find time you may not play. That is also a great opportunity for some other kids to show they are willing to make the necessary sacrifice to become successful. The coach needs to be smart enough to hold all of the kids acouuntable so if the school board president's kid who may have potential doesn't participate he suffers the same consequences as the orphan kid who no one cares about. The key is support from the administration and school board to give the coach time to do things right. If he gets support if will bet Vern has a very competitive RR team within the next four years, and hopefully sooner.

Detroit Lakes has a lineman named Zach Fulmer. Great feet, great technique. 6' 2'' 245lbs. Played bb and baseball. Great upside. OT and DT. UND is on him. They have a linebacker named Brent Eidenschink. 6' 1'' 215lbs. 4 yr starter. Also great wrestler. Has been 3 yr All-American (Greco-Roman) and placed in top 3 at Mn. State Wrestling Tourney last two years. Good chance he could be All-State in FB and could be Academic All-State. Only question is average speed but could be a DE in College. Has D1 wrestling offers but doesn't know if he wants to wrestle or play FB. Hard nosed and he will knock your dick stiff. Detroit Lakes should be very tough defensively and will go back to the veer but doesn't have great speed at the skill positions. Inexperience at QB and only average speed at RB. In addition Alexandria is back in AAAA this year and they should be pretty good. Sartell has an excellent RB 5'10'' and about 225lbs but had to sit last year for rules violations. Rumor was it was something similar to what Randy Moss does once in a blue moon.

This past spring he told one of our kids (a gopher fan) who played with him on a select team in the past that he would choose UND if he had to make the decision then. Certainly could have changed his mind since then but I wouldn't think UND is out of it yet.

Advertising hell, how about an article in the herald about this weeks game? There should have been articles about the fall scrimmages and articles about the upcoming game and season. There have been only a couple of articles since the team reported in early August. Couldn't the herald at least get an intern from UND to keep folks posted on basic info if their writers are too busy?

I think you are correct that in the past the previous leadership at the REA was a big problem. I think the new guy has come with a sense of cooperation and would hope there will be a lot of improvement. I believe the biggest problem was the guy from Minot who could have cared less about UND students, UND or the community of Grand Forks. I believe you will find that no matter where you live or go to school affecting change is quite difficult. I don't know about the city lately, but I believe you can still work within the University for change. It takes a long time though and most students don't have the time. I know there are people working within the Athletic Department and with REA officials to improve the situation.

I stand corrected.