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Harold has been generous to UND over the years and was a very good friend of former FB coach Jerry Olson. His family has supported UND. I believe he is a Mayville grad.

Biggest reason in my opinion would be to play them in hockey and then get them to play us in WBB, MBB and FB there and here. We will need D1 games especially in the transition period and Army has a storied history and is still highly respected.

You can make a case for them because they are pretty good and the Gophers are not. Gophers should win but don't bet your house. (or in the case of the AC and U of Minn grads don't bet the double wide). I think the AC will play well and give the Gophers every thing they want and more. Pretty hard to predict a win because the AC hasn't played anybody. The Lutheran prep school from St. Paul they manhandled, got kicked by Augie Saturday so it is hard to judge how good they are. Good luck to them. If they can knock off the Gophers in FB it will give them something else to crow about for a couple of years and then those who have been saying how the Gophers will blow them away will be able to say the Gophers are not even a DIII caliber school so it doesn't count. Dave K will have to go to the AC thread and tell them he was wrong and offer to buy season tickets and enroll in one of the manure shoveling classes after hours or on line. They may give him credits for your previous work similar to AP classes. Dave K doesn't dislike the Bison radicals any less than I do but there is a time to let it go and be gracious. Don't forget to separate the media and the radicals from their fans. Have fun with them but when they come on and are gracious accept it with class. Their folks have done so and a number of them have been insightful in the D1 discussions. The only thing worse than a sore loser is a winner with no class. I hope Sioux MD didn't get court-martialed for firing off his weapon after the UND win Saturday. Find one of the Medics and have them clean that thing for you so it is ready in case you ever need it. Thanks for your service and Godspeed. For those who are Minnesota fans, the comeback against UNI was similar to one in the Mn HS championship in 2001 when Detroit Lakes kept coming back against Mankato East and won at the end of the game. QB was the same in both games and same comments were made about his leadership and keeping his cool. Also nice job by Belmore. UND didn't miss a beat with him in the game. Gotta get back to work.

Fastest receiver we have ever had was Norm McGee. National D2 sprint champ and qualified for the Olympic trials as a sprinter. He didn't have great hands. Strouth and Chapell may be the fastest pair of RB's we have ever had and this is one of the deepest backfields ever with Manke and Belmore at QB ( can both throw and run), Beatty Brady, Chapell, Strouth and Christianson at RB/FB. You would have to go back to 1972 with Mike Deutsch, Mark Belmore, Mark Walker and Bobby Helman with Billy Deutsch and Dale Kasowski as Freshman to find a comparable group. They didn't have the speed these guys do. Jay Gustafson and Bruce Daucsavage were good QB's but they were both slow (>5.1 40 times). Fritz Pollard in the 1930's had great speed and was an Olympian. I don't know how fast Red Jarret was but he was recognized as one of the best in the country before they had multiple divisions. Jacox and Martin were the other two I can remember with great speed. I don't think either of them were as fast as Dressler or Chapell. UND has had great receivers and good depth at receiver during the Lennon years and this group is deep as well. Big athletic O-line. This should be a very good offense.

You mean your young son made a Bison!

What happened to Murray, the O-lineman? He had been listed as a one and I am not sure I saw that he had played.

Don't be surprised if the Bison don't get smoked. The Gophers are not the Big Ten Power and the Bison are pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised that much if they pull off the upset. I don't think they will get blown out though.

Justin Knopf, a UND engineering student, was injured in Iraq Wednesday. Justin is from Detroit Lakes and was a teammate of 2 of the Manke brothers. One of his fellow soldiers, Josh Hanson, from Dent, Mn. (who I believe played HS FB at Pelican Rapids) was killed in the same incident by a roadside bomb. The news report indicated Justin's injuries were not life threatening. Justin also served a tour in Bosnia. This is the second interuption of his college career to serve his country. His fellow soldier Josh Hanson had also served in Bosnia. Please remember them in your prayers.

Great Day for Detroit Lakes. SiouxMD protecting us from Iraq so we may enjoy the freedom of Reed Manke throwing 4 TD's and his younger brother Rory with two INT's. Go Sioux.

Can't see missing any. The DL FB coach bought an old school bus and painted it green and white for the purpose of tailgating at Sioux games. We should be at every home game and maybe UNI. All are welcome. Your place after the games.

Sioux 48 CWU 10. Nice to hear from you. Slacking off in the warm sunshine I would assume. Check out the Hard Rock Cafe in Bahgdad. Great camel burgers. Send an address and I will see if there is anyway to get you a copy of the game film. Keep you head low, ( I forgot, it's always low) your flak jacket zipped and God-speed.

It may not make it back to DL. One of the two guys who was going to pick up the cost to get it here was just diagnosed with cancer and the owner of Shoreham is not longer sure it will get here. Too bad but still great for GF.

I think he is the choice of his teamates as they have elected him a captain. Belmore didn't have as good of a spring but he is certainly going to keep pushing for the starting job. You have to give him credit for handling the situation with class.

She is a senior this year so will be a freshman at UND next fall.

Corey Lof commited to UND this week.

I believe it will also be back to Detroit Lakes to Shoreham Hotel if I have been correctly informed. That will be twice in the same summer. First by one of the front office folks who have relatives here now by Mike.

Billy Cundiff, who was with the Cowboys and now the Packers, has had Hellvang in his summer camp at Drake University and is very impressed with him.

Women have offered Corey Lof 6'1'' athletic forward from Detroit Lakes. She is also considering Mankato (former DL kid is an asst. coach). She didn't like the AC.

I think that on the surface that might be true. Dunn has seen the problems Chapman has caused and believes in the team approach. Potts was kind to Chapman and has 20-30 incidences of insubordination and Chapman's trouble with the truth that Dunn is well aware of. The word is that even Paulson (who I would not trust) has agreed Chapman has created problems and will need to be brought in to the fold. One of Pott's mistakes was that he didn't not take his concerns to a public meeting because he and the board thought Paulsen was going to bring Chapman under control and it wouldn't be in the best interest of the State to air the dirty laundry. Clayberg from Grand Forks is just as much to blame, as she let her dislike for Kupchella cloud her opinion of Chapman and she did anything Paulsen wished. The board has agreed they could be in trouble with the legislature but it will be interesting to see if there is change. I think unless Paulsen undermines him, Dunn will do a good job.

A small dose of Haldol may curb your delusions and hallucinations son. The only thing you have passed UND in is gas. The AC fans have been a source of entertainment for quite some time. I have no hatred for the school nor their teams. I am just not a fan of either. I am a fan of their fans however. I like Ozzie too but he is still an idiot. I was once recruited to play for the AC by Ron Erhardt and Whitey Bodine but I couldn't get my ACT score low enough to qualify so I went to UND. I am glad you qualified.

Good comeback. If you could give a "rats ass" then don't let it bother you. I have said already that Chapman has done a good job for Fargo. I believe after reading all of the rhetoric surrounding the issue the board has affirmed that the Chancellor should have authority over the Presidents. That is why the chancellor does the evaluation on the presidents. I serve on a school board and attend a number of workshops and conferences and I do not know of situations where you are not evaluated by your supervisor. With this board who knows? I had a long discussion with a gentleman who very eloquently let me know why he and most of the Chapman backers do not feel he should answer to Potts. Chapman has done a very good job for the Fargo campus. They will put up with his arrogance and demands if it in anyway can get them closer to what they think is the "flagship" University in N. Dak. They think there should not be so many colleges and or Universities in North Dakota and the Mayvilles and the Minots are taking away money that could go to Fargo. I understand the argument about too many schools but change the rules first before you yell hi ho silver or scream yellow or whatever and ride off by yourself. Whether or not UND has more students does not place them at the top of the list nor will NDSU be at the top of the list if if they become the largest school in the state. I don't see this as a UND vs. NDSU deal but the gentleman I spoke with thinks it is important to put that spin on the issue to take some pressure off of Chapman. I don't live in N.Dak. so I am on the outside looking in but they recruit our kids and we have a vested interest in what we may think is ethical or appropriate behavior by Chapman. He doesn't discount that Chapman has been disrespectful nor even dishonest with Potts, the board or the public. He simply makes the point that "Smokin' Joe is doing more for the AC than anyone has in years and they will protect him no matter what. The political clout is in Fargo and they are using that clout to put pressure on the board and the Governor". (His response not mine). I understand that and don't blame the Fargo folks for backing him I just don't care for how he has treated Potts or his peers. My information will not be proved on this type of Forum and even if I could give good evidence here it won't matter. There is enough information in the AG's report to give credence to some of what I believe and to give credence to Professor Lemon's editorial. Lastly, just for your entertainment pleasure the answer to your "WTF" question on the AC being the 5th best institution of higher learning in N.Dak. 1. UND (obviously) 2.University of Mary 3. Jamestown College 4.Bismarck St. Mary's High School 5.Your Alma Mater, the Agricultural College in Fargo. (I know once they made Minot State a University they started calling you guys NDSU or whatever, but to those of us in the know who have been there and lived in those dorms and the Fraternity at the AC and also gone to a real University we know it will always be the AC. Good night and God Bless.

This is a very good summary. I think a couple of things I would agree are factual. Joe Chapman has done a very good job for NDSU. He hired the marketing firm that had done a good job for the athletic department and put them to work selling the image of the entire school. They basically have declared they are good and spun when their "carbuncles" showed to an area that shines. Other than the scream yellow campaign they tried I am not sure they have made any mistakes. That marketing ploy has been asa important of a move as any he has made, in my opinion. He has pushed and pulled the cautious out of their barns and corrals to improve grant dollars and focused on technology to improve grant dollars and create collaborative programs with local and regional organizations. The D1 move was sped up by his drive and initiative and they ahve improved the Alumni giving during his tenure. What is also fact is that he is percieved as an arrogant asshole by the majority of toher NDUS presidents. He has been thumbing his nose at Chancellor Potts for a number of years and has not been willing to participate in the NDUS organization as a team player. Heoften sent one of his subordiates to meetings that the other Presidents attended. I believe it is also true that during his tenure he minions have lobbied not only on behalf of his school but against the other schools in the system. I agree with the Professor Lemon when he says the board has failed the state and the Governor has failed the state. Paulsen, who is at best a Chapman lackey who has to wipe his nose every time Chapman passes flatus, had promised 2 years ago he would get Chapman under control. Obviously, he told Potts and the board one thing and spoke otherwise behind the scenes. Now that he is Board Chair or President he will allow Chapman to do as he pleases and will protect Chapman at all costs. I assume he is a donor to Hoeven and those who choose the board members. Had the board and the Governor supported Potts and worked with Chapman to allow him to do what he did at his own school and required the common courtesy and decency that a subordinate should show their supervisor this likely wouldn't have happened. Although Chapman may look it, I don't believe he is stupid. He would have have adjusted and learned to repect his peers and Chancellor Potts and still ahve been able to do as he did for NDSU. I bleive he would also ahve been required to be truthful to Potts and the Board. His dishonesty with the board is not only unprofessional but is not acceptable. Reading the summary from the Attorney General's office only supported the evidence of his arrogance and dishonesty. The Board has displayed its incompetence first by not supporting Potts and now by trying to keep him on as a consultant. Professor Lemon is correct. The State Board and Governor look incompetnet and the President of our second largest institution of higher ed and 5th best institution of higher learning in the state looks dishonest and arrogant. It is too bad because he has done a lot of good for Fargo and that campus.

Jeff-Jeff was not only a great UND hockey fan but a great UND fan. He not only remembered the FB and hockey stars but he remembered those who were not necessarily stars. If you were part of UND athletics, he made you feel you were a star. He also remembered who you were years later. He may have had some disabilities, but when it came to remembering names and treating others how we should all be treated, he was a genius.

Bison Mav guy has a good point. Winning the DII FB championships was a blast for them and us. I hope we get to go back to Florence before we move up to the next level of minor league college FB. I also agree with him that we should both move up to Division IA in FB as well. Frankly, if you strap on the skates or the helmet whether you are at St. John's for their Divison III title or at our schools for the Division II title it was a blast. So were the hockey championships. If we pretend to lessen the accomplishments of the Division II athletes especially now, we don't seem to have the same class that UND is supposed to have. If it were easy we would have done it many more times and so would they have. I must also say that overall, Bison Mav and the Minneapolis Bison guy have been a pretty good read on what has to be a less than friendly board for them. It should be fun to renew our football dominence in the near future!

That is the glorified D2 football that UND and NDSU have chosen to participate in. Overall better than D2 and with much more promise to stay better than what the future seems to hold for D2 football. Only exists for football. Other sports will be D1 (the real D1).