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Was Rod Carey with them? Shorter trip from Indiana than to GF and remains under the radar.

The Harvard guy wants an upgrade.

In the meantime: Go Army, beat Navy!

Including Rod Carey? Probably not cuz he has UND ties.

Jerry Olson was a asst coach who took over from Marc Helling. After multiple bowl games and a 12 yr win streak against NDSU, UND was struggling and was in the midst of a 7 game losing streak to NDSU. Olson turned the program around highlighted by the win over #1 ranked Bison in the rain, in Fargo where the Bison finished with negative yardage. Under Olson the Sioux were Camelia Bowl Champs in 1972 and ranked #1 in nation in 1975 before being upset in the playoffs. Gene Murphy played here, was an assistant for many years, no HC experience. He took over a program that was struggling. Was .500 1st yr and Conf Champ second yr, beat NDSU both years. Behrns was DC, a great recruiter but after initial success the program suffered a long stretch of failed expectations and after initial success against NDSU the 12 year losing streak started. Roger Thomas, former OC returned to turn the program around and in addition to conference champions, playoff contenders, they began the 10-3 streak over NDSU. Next was Dale Lennon, former player and asst coach who led the team to conference titles, playoff appearances, and 2 National Championship games with 1 title. Mussman was an assistant coach whose struggles were skewed by the transition of the SU’s then USD to FCS leaving us at a major recruiting disadvantage. Lastly was Bubba, a former coach. No reason to review but there were some successes and also struggles So yes, I remember “inbreeding”. For those whose philosophy is not to consider anyone with UND ties, wouldn’t that mean we wouldn’t have hired Olson, Murphy, Thomas or Lennon?That is why you also consider those with UND ties. Because it doesn’t always work out, you don’t hire candidates just because they have UND ties.

Simple answer: It’s complicated. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to ignore potential candidates cuz of UND ties nor because they are older or younger than 40. I’m not on the selection committee so my opinion is no more important than anyone else’s posting here. I might opine if I knew who applied but its irrelevant

New ideas, and new philosophies evolve over time so I don’t believe Fruechte has been overly influenced by one year here. Along that line Schmidt and Schluesner have been gone long enough with other programs such that their ideas, philosophy and style has been evolving while gone. The best coaches can flat out recruit and can coach. That is what we need regardless of UND connections. More importantly, is D1 experience, HC experience, and evidence of successes as their careers evolve.

Some were, some weren’t. Evaluating recruits starts when they come to summer camps and/or when HS and JC coaches respond to questionnaires sent asking them to rate any of their players who they think have enough potential to play college ball. Coaches review those responses and subsequently invite kids to summer camps and get game film. No one checks fan forums to evaluate players. If some FBS and multiple FCS teams offer then it’s more likely you have a potential blue chipper. But this staff has uncovered a number of guys who no one else offered or were PWO’s who have excelled. The staff is convinced these are 23 guys who can help the program and they all signed this am. None of the 23 decommitted despite the coaching unknowns. That is impressive.

I don’t believe Big Sky is “soft” but MVFC is a better conference top to bottom. We don’t know what Schmidt would do. He has been gone for some time. I doubt the new HC will leave coaching staff intact regardless of who we hire. Whomever we hire better be able to adjust schemes based on personnel rather than putting players into schemes they may not be suited to. They will also need to try players at other positions if they aren’t contributing. We need an upgrade on both sides of the ball if we want to compete for a National Championship. I would also echo the praise for this coaching staff to get all 23 guys signed. Now let’s see if we can minimize portal loses and maximize portal gains.

I’m not advocating for anyone in particular but I’m not so sure we can assume these guys would continue the status quo. All 3 have coached at different places but over the years have spent time at coaches clinics or even spent time with other programs during the off season. They also have experienced what doesn’t work and could very well have different ideas about moving the program forward. If any of them are interviewed, that would need to be clearly evident.

Only if he brings the RR lineman back with him.

SS.com hasn’t endorsed anybody. It would be foolish to endorse a candidate before we even know who applies. That is an example of why school officials across the country aren’t interested in what is posted on social media. We all have opinions but we all have our preconceived ideas (including myself) of how things should be done. We don’t have all of the details nor inside info. The vast majority base our opinions on wins and losses and our personal experiences. We get it right sometimes so we think we may know more than we do. My opinion is that we thank Bubba for his time and stop bashing him. We all know how the how the program has evolved since 2013, successes/failures. The most important comments made at the recent press conference included moving the program forward and staying positive. If we don’t want to help be part of the solution, we may be part of the problem. This forum should be entertaining and at times informative. We shouldn’t take ourselves too seriously.

There will be no requirement for candidates to have present or prior UND coaching/playing experience. There won’t be set minimum/maximum age limits but younger guys will need to have built an impressive resume in a shorter period. Although there won’t be a set maximum age we don’t want guys who don’t have the energy, don’t have the passion and can’t relate to players and their families. No reason to limit our chances due to preconceived prejudices.

HC chooses his own staff. Present staff knows it. HC may keep some of present staff. Depends on who and how many he brings with him. Keeping guys who can recruit and who are liked and respected by players can help with transition and recruiting.

No

Not sure why they would pick 8 years, but experience would be a key factor.

With speed and quickness.

If we hire a coach who doesn’t think we can “out recruit” the other top FCS programs then we probably won’t. We recently have started to win some of those battles. The coach who we hire better be able to coach FB. He needs to b flexible enough to adjust schemes that will put his personnel in a position to succeed. 3-4, 4-3, even 3-3-5 when needed and whatever combo of offensive schemes that fit his personnel.

You are correct. I have stated more than once that we aren’t looking for someone with UND ties, we are looking for the best candidate to turn this program around. UND ties not required but not a disqualifying factor either. I have previously stated what I think we should be looking for in a head coach and we have listed similar qualities. Where we seem to differ is that I don’t care whether or not they have “UND ties”.

Then we could miss the next “DeBoer”. The next head coach needs to be the best person for the job regardless of what schools he has played or coached at. Fortunately, no one with that philosophy will be making the decision.

I’m not sure how you know that none of those coaches “didn’t do one thing or call out one thing”. Those are discussions, that can get pretty heated sometimes, occur in staff meetings. Players get those messages in the film room all of the time. They also get those messages in group meetings with position coaches or private meetings with one of the coaches. I don’t know who on the staff should or shouldn’t receive consideration moving forward, if any. Fortunately, those decisions are up to the new HC.

Another viable candidate if he’s interested.

The only pressing issue right now in addition to getting head coach and new staff hired is signing the recruits, end of year meetings, and maintaining communication with recruits and players. You and Gundy make good points. Bubba needs to communicate with the recruits but someone on the staff needs to also organize Wed signing day and help present staff and team hold things together, find new jobs etc. Bubba could help especially with staff transition.

Normally, when coaches are let go, you cut the cord. I don’t know how all of this will play out so I don’t know why announcement was made yesterday.

Actually you do. Someone needs to make sure end of season meetings take place and all recruits are contacted to try to get commits signed Wednesday . It’s important someone is in charge of all of that.