GeauxSioux

I didn't say that UND has been dominant in the last 15 years. In fact the Glas years have been a disppointment with the exception of the early 90's when he had great assistants like McDermott. In showing the records against the SU's and USD I was demonstrating that over the long haul UND has faired well for being a "hockey school". You chose to take a snapshot of the last 15 years of men's basketball to make your point. There is one thing that is changing with the move to Division I and that change has already occured in coaching. I was not alone in my trek between the venues. You can still go to a hockey games against Minnesota after playing a basketball game against, say UWGB. They typically start the hockey games later when the basketball team is home. I'm not involved in the decision making of scholarships, but if you can get a money game in a couple of years after playing I-AA football and the basketball team will not be able to get to "the dance" for a few years it would seem that football is where the scholarships should be allocated. The $$ made of the "money game" in football could pay for scholarships elsewhere. I realize that some conferences such as the Mid-Con would look at basketball scholarships first others such as Big Sky would look toward the football scholarships. Some may look at that as a telling sign of where UND is trying to position itself.

Yes hockey and basketball are played at the same time of the year, but they don't play at the same time of the day and they are not always at home on the same weekend. There are many nights when I would go to WBB, MBB and hockey all in the same night and that was when you had to walk in the dead of winter from Hyslop to the old REA. Hockey has been the primary sport at UND for quite some time and yet have winning records against: NDSU 156-128 USD 94-77 SDSU 105-77 I think that shows some commitment to basketball.

I have read on other board where others feel our success in hockey will work against us. Their point often being that with hockey being king at UND everything else suffers and that conferences wouldn't invite UND because we wouldn't put money or effort into the other programs that would be a part of their conference. I have a different take on the issue. I think that the exposure that UND hockey receives would enhance the visibility of the conference in which the remainder of UND's sports would be members. I also believe that UND hockey would see an expanded fan base, especially if we were able to get into the Big Sky. I have read that there is quite a significant hockey following in Montana for instance who may end up following UND hockey. I have family in New Orleans that are huge UNO Privateer fans that have since started following Denver Pioneer hockey, only because they are both in the Sunbelt Conference.

Does a ticket include free salad bar? Cool.

I'm not scumming the Mid-Con. The end of my post says "if given a choice". It just seems that the majority of the Bison fans that are posting here are saying that they wouldn't jump if the Big Sky did offer. I think that you would have to admit that the Big Sky is much more in line with peer institutions than the Mid-Con.

It makes sense in I-A, but I agree that it doesn't in I-AA unless I-AA goes away from the playoff system. Which I think most would agree isn't going to happen anytime soon. I'm trying to understand why it seems many Bison fans on SS.com are saying that NDSU wouldn't jump to the Big Sky if offered. I would think that the alumni base ($$$) would be more inclined to give if NDSU was Big Sky rather than Mid-Con. I'm assuming that NDSU has a sizable alumni population in Denver and the western states, more so than in Mid-Con land. Big Sky makes more finanacial sense if given a choice.

I disagree that NDSU would stay put in the Mid-Con if they were invited to the Big Sky. I think they would jump. If he knows that they will never come east, why say anything at all. He would gain nothing by saying it.

I'm hoping that you're right. I don't know NDSU is going to handle their MidCon invite, as I think it is coming. They would need something concrete from the BSC to turn down an invitation from the MidCon.

You're right that indoor is much more difficult to expand. I believe that is why Sicatoka said some "creative engineering" may be required. My point is you need to start somewhere. Hopefully there was some mindset during design that expansion could happen in the years to come. As for playing outside, I think you would see the attendance fall back down. When I lived in GF I never missed a game, no matter what the weather, but back in the 80's and 90's attendance was a far cry from where it is now. I went to the Potato Bowl last year and it was great to be indoors. The crowd was great, the atmosphere, the noise. I don't remember Memorial rocking like that for a many years (with the exception of the Bison games), even when we had good teams.

I wasn't living in GF when the Events Center was finally approved by the voters, so I don't know the details of arena vs convention center. That being said, aren't stadiums always being expanded? Use the University of Montana as an example. Their stadium was built in 1985, expanded in 1995, again in 2002 and 2003. From what I've heard there is another expansion planned. Why didn't the Univ. of Montana just build a stadium for 30,000 to begin with? You have to start somewhere and grow. It sounds like at that time, 13,500 was all that could be afforded. They are now investigating options for additional seating. Maybe they will find a way to make it grow.

I'm sorry, but this if far too easy. I could navagate an aircraft carrier through that opening.

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How about I get you on Star Search instead?

You are correct sir. Sorry the Ed McMahon came out in me.

You have to admin Nano, there is some resemblance between the two. Kudos to PCM for the comparison.

Sorry.

Boy, you can't win. You get blasted at Bisonville for saying that Chapman was wrong and get ripped here. I remember that you moved back from Iowa to North Dakota about two years ago. Do I also remember correctly that you work for NDSU?

The leter from Potts to Kostelecky is posted on the Forum's website in pdf format. Page 1 Page 2 I would have thought that the Forum would have redacted Potts' telephone numbers and email address from the correspondence.

Agreed.

If that is the case, say goodbye to the SBoHE and NDUS.

"Seem to support". If the defecation hits the rotary oscillator, they will all be ducking for cover. That is when someone (Chapman?) will be targeted. He will be the most visible in this mess, as you demonstrated in your post and will have the biggest target on his backside. Maybe you're right and they will all back each other up, but I know how politics can go and alliances deteriorate. Maybe not in North Dakota, but it sure happens elsewhere. I know Louisiana is a whole different animal from North Dakota and this mess quite obviously doesn't compare to Katrina. but look what happened there. Longtime friendships and alliances were broken. Escambia County, Florida where I live always seems to have some political intrigue going on from the school board to the sheriffs office to the county commissioners and you neve know who is going to cut who off or side with the opposition.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the light shines very brightly on any of them, but if this "course of conduct" can be demonstrated and proven, Chapman may be the fall guy. Iowa you seem to have pretty good pulse on what is going on in the SBoHE, so I trust what you when you say everyone knew, but that does not excuse any of them.

I believe we will see the trickle of information continue. If what Potts says is true, it could be the undoing of Chapman. The big question is does he have anything to substantiate or corroborate this or is this just what he felt was happening.

Is this the appropriate place to use a "vaht"? I hope so, because it sure fits.

Sorry, I was on vacation the last time this was "discussed".