UNDlaw80

I, nor does the report, claim collusion occurred. You people's strawmen arguments are pathetic. The final government report concluded that Russia interfered in our election, the Trump campaign was up to its neck in shady Russian connections, was prone to infiltration, and Trump was well aware of what Russia was doing. That said, no direct collusion occurred. Back to the original point. That scenario is a world away from Trump's accusation, without evidence, that the election was stolen from him. He will need to provide a mountain of evidence to verify it. He hasn't thus far.

Let me take some time to read this over.

A bi-partisan committee with all access to information concluded this. Nobody debunked this. It was the final report on the entire issue. It took the Steel dossier's fakeness into consideration.

I suspect they knew he was gonna be a major divisive influence on the country, and that his campaign could be easily infiltrated considering it was made up of private businessman. I don't think it had to do with Trump's policies per se. Soviet Union/Russia's game plan has always been to divide us from within.

Here's the exact report. Read it. https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/38db593c-0013-4d7f-974d-afd49ccfbab5/note/6261e7ce-2920-4dc3-9506-8344898dee1e.

I never said there was collusion. But that doesn't mean Team Trump wasn't up to their neck in Russian shady contacts and it posed a huge security risk. Again, Trump knew what Russia has doing. At least the Dems had a legitimate reason, based on facts, to question if collusion occurred. Not saying they didn't play politics with it though. Again, read the report.

What evidence? All I see is propaganda so far. Until Trump presents evidence in a court of law, I'm dismissing anything they throw out there. All court documents are online. Anybody with a brain is laughing at this stuff even before they argue it in court.

An exhaustive investigation led by members of President Trump’s own political party portrays his 2016 campaign as posing counterintelligence risks through its myriad contacts with Russia, eager to exploit assistance from the Kremlin and seemingly determined to conceal the full extent of its conduct from a multiyear Senate probe. The long-awaited report from the Senate Intelligence Committee contains dozens of new findings that appear to show more direct links between Trump associates and Russian intelligence, and it pierces the president’s long-standing attempts to dismiss the Kremlin’s intervention on his behalf as a hoax. Link to the report: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/senate-intelligence-trump-russia-report/2020/08/18/62a7573e-e093-11ea-b69b-64f7b0477ed4_story.html

Of course they do. And that's a problem. As I said, both parties have gone full crazy.

Of course the Dems claimed 'collusion', which wasn't true. But at least this accusation was predicated on verifiable evidence that at least pointed in that direction. People in his campaign where up to their necks with Russian connections. As it turns out, although he didn't 'collude' Trump was fully aware of what Russia was doing but did nothing about it. This is what the Senate Intelligence Committee validated. Trump claiming the election was stolen from him without presenting a shred of evidence is a completely different ballgame.

Rhetoric is rhetoric. Both sides pull the same ****. Surely you can see beyond that. The difference is Russian interference was 100% true. Thoroughly validated by Rep-led Senate intelligence committee. Trump has yet to provide any evidence, anywhere, the election was stolen from him. Trump is getting thoroughly laughed out of court.

Nobody answers because both parties are unwilling to call out and criticize their own radical nutjobs. Sanity has left the building in this country.

There's nothing odd about it. This discrepancy obviously comes from the independent vote and perfectly illustrates the divide in our country where independents weren't given a choice of moderation. Rep policy and Dem President were chosen this cycle. More than ever independents didn't vote down party lines. And yea Trump needs to keep his base energized, hence his rhetoric and conspiracy theories. It's unfortunate the Trump Trash actually believe it and are too stupid to see the big picture. That said, the equivalent nutcases on the Left aren't any better.

Well yea. That was part of Trump’s plan all along. Kick everything he possibly can up to the SCOTUS and hope his lackeys rule in his favor. None of which will overturn the election though. Yea it’s legal, but it shows how much respect he has for state independence. Illustrates the difference between Trumpism and conservatism. Absolute power vs political values.

Meanwhile, in the real world of actual court, Trump continues to look like he's playing for the NY Jets. Yesterday Wayne County certified results. PA SC ruled that Rep poll watchers were given full access to voting activities in Philly.

But of course this is the biggest battle that Powell has ever faced by far. Either she will win and become a legend, or she will lose and her reputation will be completely and utterly destroyed. The stakes could not be much higher for her personally, but she seems quite confident of victory. In fact, here are 12 quotes from Powell that show why she is so convinced that Trump will end up in the White House for a second term… Right, but what makes these new allegations different from the rest? It's not like Trump hasn't had some seriously respectable and influential firms representing him in these election cases. What I'm noticing is these new allegations follow the pattern of all the others. Here we are again with unverified info leaking via fringe news outlets while Trump’s people scream “Biggest scandal ever!” and “We have information that’s coming!” on Fox News. Sure the Trumpsters go crazy with excitement, but it’s like the Boy Who Cried Wolf to the rest of America. I want to see movement in court with verifiable evidence to back up such astonishing claims, not repeated frivolous accusations that get withdrawn when push comes to shove. The burden of proof for this will be insane. Yes, Powell is a solid attorney, but she’s also waist deep in the political machinery. She is well aware that Trump’s PR battle is now more important than the innate legal battle that he’s getting wrecked in. His continued fight is essential in keeping influence over the GOP, keeping his base riled up, and keeping the money flowing.

Not according to our citizenry. We voted his ass out, by a significant margin. People were sick and tired of the Trump division and chaos. Democracy wins in the end.

Right, but Trump preys on our existing divisions like no President before him. His entire shtick is predicated on a "us vs them/good vs bad" mentality, complete with juvenile name calling. Sure others have said **** from time to time, but it's 24/7 with Trump. He purposely makes himself the center of attention. There's no middle ground with him. Very little compromise. He'll even thoroughly demonize his own party members who disagree with him. I suspect that's what makes him attractive to some people. In their mind he 'tells it like it is'. But it's not good for national unity.

Independents voted for conservative policy this election cycle, yet the opposite occurred 2 years ago when voters favored the Dems (with ‘the squad’). Independents waffle back and forth. There’s little evidence to indicate the US, as a whole, is more drawn to conservatism. What IS evident is polarization has reached an all-time high and independents are caught in the middle. If the GOP truly wants to make inroads with independents, it will need to get rid of its radical wing (Trumpism). The same scenario holds true for the Dems. I'm not of the belief that our country can survive if both parties stay their current course. Sane individuals will be forced to seek an alternate third party. Although it may take some time, I do envision both parties ditching their radical elements whereby we return to some element of normalcy.

Nothing yet. Despite the Covid craziness, I am excited they're playing every other day. That's like a month of nothing but Sioux hockey.

Yes. This discrepancy was due to the independent vote. Preference for conservative policy, but a rejection of Trump.

Interesting. Would you have link to this? I can't find anything about it online.

Apart from Team Trump's PR attack, there's really nothing fishy happening on the ground in Nevada. Cmon, you're not stupid.

And Lil Wayne and Ice Cube can provide the entertainment.

Hahaha!!! Three of the four lawyers representing Trump in PA just quit. Like an hour ago. Tomorrow is the hearing. The remaining attorney specializes in business law and is a right wing radio host. Sweet Jesus you couldn't write better comedy than this.