Midwestern Hawk

I have never seen anything like the injury situation. 6 of the starting 11 defenders out, not to mention the QB, two FB's,

Not a single recruit has chosen MSU over Michigan since Harbaugh arrived. MSU struggled recruiting against Michigan even when Brady Hoke was coaching.

No matter how good Michigan State does, they will always be #2. As soon as things get going in Ann Arbor, EAst Lansing becomes and after thought. It was why Nick Saban left MSU.

Not liked? By whom NDSU booster club? A kid in minneapolis does not care about ND politics. UND has way more to sell overall than NDSU.

No I don't think we are.

Rhode Island? Who cares. Rt blew the whole D1 thing. UND will get caught up because it is the flagship university of the state of North Dakota. It will hurt pretty bad when NDAC gets beaten by lowly UND. Its coming like a freight train. Rocky Hager never thought it was going to happen either. As for those other schools, they have never been schools known for football, UND has been, and will be again soon.

It was a great coaching job by one of the all-time best coaches no doubt about it. It was also one position and if anyone thinks ohio state would have been in even close to that position with 13-15 of their starters out, I have a bridge I would like to sell you. Even your beloved Bison would never be able to keep winning every week with 13-15 of their starters out. I do think UND should be doing better managing the situation than they are, but to think they would keep winning under the circumstances is nuts.

14,906 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_North_Dakota

Yes an absolute scrub. Please have some idea what you are talking about. He is also an NFL quarterback. https://247sports.com/Player/Cardale-Jones-16539/high-school-27354

Its 5,000 more students and the cities and aviation.

The reality is in football you really need a solid 46 players, 2-deep and a punter and kicker. This season at ILB the injuries go further than 2 deep, same at some DB positions. A better hockey comparison would be if you had the top 5 defenseman all out because of injury would be pretty decimating to most hockey teams.

Haksto'ls teams choked. Several years UND was easily the best team, but it is not remembered that way because of the nature of college hockey. If they are seven game series like the NHL, UND has several more nattys over the last couple of decades.

Football is much different than hockey. There is no USHL, the comparable USHL in football is done in-house. Apple and oranges. When the hockey players arrive in Grand Forks they are ready to play. Not so in football with very few exceptions.

13 starters out in football is more than having 3-4 players out in hockey. Now it is more than 13 starters out.

He has a vision of what UND will become and the plan includes very relevant athletics and that can't happen without great football and men's basketball. 2025 UND will have more than 20,000 students.

I seem to remember a year in those glory years when the wheels fell off. Bubba has to get this train back on the tracks but I have faith he will.

NDSU does not have the top end talent to win it this season. Mcclimon will end up being Rocky Hager II.

This is correct. Their is a huge hole in the roster when you get to juniors and senior and we are paying the price for that this season.

Kennedy has a plan to move UND way up the collegiate ladder and it all revolves around football and mens basketball. I have faith that he will get it done and 5 and 10 years from now NDSU will be looking back fondly on the glory days.

Next season UND will finish higher than NDSU and then the next season we will defeat them in Fargo and the cycle will begin again.

How different everything could be with O’Brien, Rodgers, Hunt and Larson.

Maybe, but a guy like Rastas while busting his ass, would probably never start if it was not for the injuries to O’Brien, Rodgers, Hunt and Larson. I am not talking about just this year, I mean ever. Tough to be too mean when you are getting pancakes lots of plays and just don’t have the wheels to get there.

He’s a redshirt freshman. He certainly would not be considered the new kid on the block with UND’s current ILB lineup. Hunt and Rastas, they are both his age and Rastas has now started 5 games.

I completely agree. It is tougher to be a dog on the field when you are over matched physically and mentally.

I agree with evaluating player leadership or lack thereof, I think that is one of those things that has to happen organically and I don’t think it has been there since the end of last season. Maybe losing O’Brien really hurt in that I don’t know. I think the off the field problems are there or lurking on every college football team. Some of it is the nature of 18-23 year old men. It needs to be held in check though and when the school, football, social priorities gets flipped and the social part takes over it affects everything else. When it gets flipped to the degree that I believe it has, things can really be affected. The off the field crap has nothing to do with the coaching staff playing heidelbaugh over Zimmerman. That decision raises all kinds of questions. And yes like someone else said, the players all know who is better at that position especially, just like most probably know who is focused on football and who is not.