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#1251 User is offline   PCM 

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 08:08 AM

Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem has a letter to the editor in today's GF Herald in response to Doreen Yellow Bird's column.

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On Friday afternoon, Herald staff writer Dorreen Yellow Bird called me seeking information on the proposed lawsuit against the National Collegiate Athletic Association. At the end of our conversation, she said she had written another column on the topic, and this time I see it is critical of me personally (“Stenehjem should represent everyone in state,” Page 4A, Sept. 30).

Following our conversation, she admitted there were errors in her column. But it was too late, she said, to rewrite. It already had been submitted for publication. Instead, she invited me to write a letter correcting her errors, which I appreciate the opportunity to do.

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#1252 User is offline   Diggler 

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Post icon  Posted 04 October 2006 - 08:44 AM

So....if it was too late to put any information he had into the article, why did she call him? Just so she could tell him he was wrong over the phone?
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 08:45 AM

While I can give her credit for admitting the errors, it seems it is Doreen's responsibility to write the correction, and not the AG's. For the record, DYB's column is part of history. Anyone who researches the topic will find hers, and they won't necessarily have the AG's letter at hand to better understand the situation.

She should write her own correction, at the very least.
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#1254 User is offline   PCM 

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 08:45 AM

View PostDiggler, on Oct 4 2006, 08:44 AM, said:

So....if it was too late to put any information he had into the article, why did she call him? Just so she could tell him he was wrong over the phone?

I think it was the other way around. ???
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 09:25 AM

My thoughts when I read the AG's article..........................fine, but the damage was done. It's kind of like in a court room when a lawyer says something, the other lawyer objects and it is sustained and stricken from the record, but, mission accomplished, the jury heard it.
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#1256 User is offline   Sioux-cia 

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 09:47 AM

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Following our conversation, she admitted there were errors in her column. But it was too late, she said, to rewrite.

WTF!!!! Where is the responsibility of the journalist to check and recheck their information before submitting it to print. WTF are the editors whose responsibility is to verify information they print is accurate. Geezey, Peezey, there is something HUGELY wrong with this!!
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#1257 User is offline   The Sicatoka 

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 09:52 AM

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While the opponents of the Sioux nickname may be satisfied with the results (meaning the NCAA ban), many don't seem to care what process was followed as long as they achieved the result they wanted. I respectfully disagree.
Moniker opponents not worrying about tactics and appropriate processes used and just worrying about getting "the result they wanted"?

Say it ain't so. Who-da thunk? Any thoughts on this "Sioux-cia"?

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The NCAA has constituents, too. Those constituents are the institutions that belong to the association, and which all have agreed to a process to resolve disputes and set policy. But the NCAA ignored its own constitution and rules and instead unilaterally, and I think illegally, imposed this new rule.


I believe, ladies and gentlemen, this is the theme continually espoused in UND appeals and it will continue when the Attorney General begins the "appeal" in the courts.
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#1258 User is offline   Sioux-cia 

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Post icon  Posted 04 October 2006 - 10:19 AM

View PostThe Sicatoka, on Oct 4 2006, 09:52 AM, said:

Moniker opponents not worrying about tactics and appropriate processes used and just worrying about getting "the result they wanted"?

Say it ain't so. Who-da thunk? Any thoughts on this "Sioux-cia"?


I'm getting this strange craving for a GrahamKracker dunked, no drowned in milk. ???

This post has been edited by Sioux-cia: 04 October 2006 - 10:42 AM

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#1259 User is offline   LetsGoSioux! 

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 10:28 AM

Get rid of DYB. To write something that is false multiple times and publish it is simply unacceptable for a "journalist" who writes for a larger newspaper. She clearly has an agenda. FIRE DYB!!! I'm sure there are jobs out there for supermarket tabloid writers.
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 11:10 AM

For years, I figure DYB was/is merely delusional, and a poor writer as well, now it also appears she has severe ethical issues. Then again, leave it to the Hurled to keep somebody around as "window dressing". ???
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 12:27 PM

View PostSioux-cia, on Oct 4 2006, 09:47 AM, said:

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Following our conversation, she admitted there were errors in her column. But it was too late, she said, to rewrite.

WTF!!!! Where is the responsibility of the journalist to check and recheck their information before submitting it to print. WTF are the editors whose responsibility is to verify information they print is accurate. Geezey, Peezey, there is something HUGELY wrong with this!!

Sioux-cia I agree with 100% there is something very wrong with this. I think the AG stated the case nicely and anyone that reads that could not disagree with why ND is suing the NCAA. I just hope his letter helped make some people understand the issue a little more clearly.
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#1262 User is offline   PCM 

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 09:04 AM

From thenewsstar.com:

The ASU name is the same
Sun Belt rival won't give up on 'Indians'

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After briefly exploring appeal options, ULM quickly moved to exploring a change in nickname and mascot. University administrators made it an all-inclusive process, creating a mascot committee to research a change and then allowing faculty, students, and alumni to vote on a new nickname.

Arkansas State, on the other hand, stood fast in its resolve to explore all options that would allow it to keep the Indian nickname. To this point, the university hasn't seriously explored a nickname change.

"We have continued to remain in a monitoring position and observing what is going on with other institutions," Lee said. "We are still in communication with a lot of those institutions, most notably Illinois and North Dakota. We are in the process of observing what is happening on their campuses and around the nation with litigation."

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 09:19 AM

View PostPCM, on Oct 6 2006, 09:04 AM, said:

From thenewsstar.com:

The ASU name is the same
Sun Belt rival won't give up on 'Indians'

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After briefly exploring appeal options, ULM quickly moved to exploring a change in nickname and mascot. University administrators made it an all-inclusive process, creating a mascot committee to research a change and then allowing faculty, students, and alumni to vote on a new nickname.

Arkansas State, on the other hand, stood fast in its resolve to explore all options that would allow it to keep the Indian nickname. To this point, the university hasn't seriously explored a nickname change.

"We have continued to remain in a monitoring position and observing what is going on with other institutions," Lee said. "We are still in communication with a lot of those institutions, most notably Illinois and North Dakota. We are in the process of observing what is happening on their campuses and around the nation with litigation."


Ironically, Robert Potts is going to be the new chancellor at Arkansas State.
Potts takes new job.

Lets join the Sunbelt.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 10:58 AM

From the St. Paul Pioneer Press:

North Dakota officials sue NCAA over Fighting Sioux nickname

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State officials filed a lawsuit Friday against the NCAA to challenge its restrictions on the University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux nickname.

Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem said the lawsuit, filed in Northeast Central District Court in Grand Forks, alleges a breach of contract by the NCAA, a breach of good faith and illegal restraint of trade.

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 11:23 AM

Sioux Sue from the Grand Forks Herald.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 12:24 PM

Go get'em Wayne. What about an injunction, so that the Sioux can host playoffs and wear standard uniforms? Or is an injunction automatic?
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 12:27 PM

View PostGeauxSioux, on Oct 6 2006, 12:24 PM, said:

Go get'em Wayne. What about an injunction, so that the Sioux can host playoffs and wear standard uniforms? Or is an injunction automatic?

The lawsuit seeks a preliminary injunction to immediately stop the NCAA from implementing its policy and then a permanent injunction.
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#1268 User is offline   82SiouxGuy 

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 01:08 PM

ESPN.com has picked up the story.

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Stenehjem said the lawsuit seeks to allow the University of North Dakota to use the nickname throughout the school year without being sanctioned in possible postseason play, along with unspecified money damages.

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NCAA officials were not immediately available for comment. NCAA President Myles Brand has said the NCAA will defend its policy "to the utmost."

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#1269 User is offline   GeauxSioux 

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 01:38 PM

Front page of USA Today sports.

State of North Dakota sues
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#1270 User is offline   Sioux-cia 

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 03:10 PM

It's fantastic the way the media has picked up this story. This is national news folks!! I can't wait to read how the NC$$ tucked it's tail between it's legs and had to eat it words. I have NO DOUBT that UND will win this lawsuit, none whatsoever!

http://msn.foxsports...k/story/6036390

From our own sudo reporter
http://www.uscho.com/news/id,12754/NorthDa...iouxName.htmler
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