grandforks Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Let's assume the top four are ... CCHA winner tonight CCHA loser tonight North Dakota New Hampshire UND winning today saved the committee a ton of issues: #1 overall goes to Madison #2 overall is a western team and should go to the other west regional (so sayeth history and precedent) #3 overall no longer has a western site available -- east they go (and they love making UND travel) #4 overall is eastern with an open eastern site They split up the top two seeds by putting one in the east and one in the west. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 They split up the top two seeds by putting one in the east and one in the west. In recent years when 1 and 2 are both from "east" or "west" they've crossed the regionals going to a Frozen Four. For example, 2007: Rochester, NY played Grand Rapids, MI; Denver, CO played Manchester, NH. They did the same in 2006 and 2005. Putting #2 overall Miami (?) into Colorado Springs puts them in the west (as a west team) and allows them to "cross" the bracket by having the Colorado Springs bracket play an east bracket. nodakvindy's gues-timate would cross Madison/Albany (1/4) and Colorado Springs/Worchester (2/3). Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 live pairwise blog http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/?cat=13 Quote
rochsioux Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Further proof that the pairwise must be changed - http://www.uscho.com/news/id,15577/PairWis...iesUpdated.html If the Northern Michigan - Notre Dame 3rd place game had ended in a tie then Notre Dame would be out of the tourny. With a win or a loss they make the field. How bizarre would it have been if the game had gone to ot and Notre Dame intentionally scores a goal on themselves in order to lose the game so they can make the NCAA tourny field. Quote
sprig Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 BC up 4-0, Northern Mich beat ND, and Princeton beat Harvard; looks like Wisco has backed its way in and Mankato is out. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Further proof that the pairwise must be changed - http://www.uscho.com/news/id,15577/PairWis...iesUpdated.html If the Northern Michigan - Notre Dame 3rd place game had ended in a tie then Notre Dame would be out of the tourny. With a win or a loss they make the field. How bizarre would it have been if the game had gone to ot and Notre Dame intentionally scores a goal on themselves in order to lose the game so they can make the NCAA tourny field. thats just plain stupid, wow..can you imagine that happening Quote
7>4 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 BC up 4-0, Northern Mich beat ND, and Princeton beat Harvard; looks like Wisco has backed its way in and Mankato is out. The fact that WI gets in over Mankato is reason enough to change the pairwise. Mankato had the better season and deserve a bid. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 The fact that WI gets in over Mankato is reason enough to change the pairwise. Mankato had the better season and deserve a bid. uw is under .500, what a flippin joke..wow Quote
HeidiSioux62 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 There is going to be screaming all across the Northeast and across to the great lakes with Wisco getting in with an under 500 record. Quote
sprig Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 uw is under .500, what a flippin joke..wow Seems unbelievable, but Mankato's non conference play did them in; losing twice to a poor team in the cupcake hockey association really kills them. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Here is the Stickboy bracket Albany Michigan 1 AF 16 SCSU 8 MSU 9 Madison Wisco 12 BC 6 ND/MSM 13 UNH 4 Worcester 3 UND 14 Princeton 11 UMTC 7 Denver Colo Springs 10 Clarkson 5 CC 15 Niagra 2 Miami Quote
sprig Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 thats just plain stupid, wow..can you imagine that happening But, even if BC, NMU and Princeton win, and Wisconsin would have one more comparison win than Minnesota State, the committee might still consider Minnesota State over Wisconsin because Minnesota State wins the head-to-head comparison between the two, by a 4-2 margin. The above happened as far as who won, there will be screaming if the committee picks lower power team (Mankato) over Wisco. Quote
star2city Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 The NCAA is going to attempt to maximize attendance. One view of possible brackets: Colorado Springs (two Colorado teams, + UND travels well) #3 UND #16 Air Force (moved to compensate for #3 and #5 seeds) # 5 CC # 9 Mich St (#12 Wisco not available, #11 UMTC avoids WCHA first round, #10 Clarkson needed in Albany) Madison (Mich travels) #1 Michigan #14 Princeton (moved to compensate for higher seed Denver) # 7 Denver (Can't be #5 CC, #6 BC placed in Worcester for attendance) #12 Wisco (one first round WCHA game cant be avoided) Albany (two upstatet NY teams for attendance) #2 Miami #15 Niagara # 8 SCSU #10 Clarkson (key for Albany attendance) Worcester (two HE teams for attendance) #4 UNH #13 Notre Dame #6 BC #11 UMTC Total sum of seeds: CC: 33 (strongest regional by slim margin) Madison: 34 Worcester: 34 Albany: 35 First round games not balanced but regionals are. Quote
sagard Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 The NCAA is going to attempt to maximize attendance. One view of possible brackets: Colorado Springs (two Colorado teams, + UND travels well) #3 UND #16 Air Force (moved to compensate for #3 and #5 seeds) # 5 CC (#12 Wisco not available, #11 UMTC avoids WCHA first round, #10 Clarkson needed in Albany) # 9 Mich St (would have been #11 UMTC but want to avoid two WCHA first round)) Madison (Mich travels) #1 Michigan #14 Princeton (moved to compensate for higher seed Denver) # 7 Denver (Can't be #5 CC, #6 BC placed in Worcester for attendance) #12 Wisco (one first round WCHA game cant be avoided) Albany (two upstatet NY teams for attendance) #2 Miami #15 Niagara # 8 SCSU #10 Clarkson (key for Albany attendance) Worcester (two HE teams for attendance) #4 UNH #13 Notre Dame #6 BC #11 UMTC Total sum of seeds: CC: 33 (strongest regional by slim margin) Madison: 34 Worcester: 34 Albany: 35 First round games not balanced but regionals are. Switch Air Force and Princton and I think you have them. Here is what I came up with, though I like yours better. Worcester 1 Michigan 26 Air Force 8 SCSU 9 Michigan State Madison 3 UND 16 Princton 6 BC 12 UW Colorado Springs 4 UNH 13 Notre Dame 5 CC 11 MN Albany 2 Miami 22 Niagara 7 Denver 10 Clarkson Quote
star2city Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Worcester 1 Michigan 26 Air Force 8 SCSU 9 Michigan State It's by far the fairest, but the attendance in Worcester will be horrendous. The NCAA is about $'s. Quote
HeidiSioux62 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Here' is College Hockey News' Adam Wooden's take http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2008...atournament.php Northeast Regional Quote
star2city Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Here' is College Hockey News' Adam Wooden's take http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2008...atournament.php Northeast Regional Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Here' is College Hockey News' Adam Wooden's take http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2008...atournament.php Northeast Regional Quote
WiSioux Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 watch, we will be in the same regional as the gophers again for the 3rd straight year...might happen too bad we can't find some way to get Michigan in there too.... Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 from brads blog, a early projection from a uscho staff member One of the USCHO bracket experts here at the Final Five says he thinks it is very likely that UND will play Princeton in the first round. "That's the way the seeds match up and I don't see any reason to change that," he said. As he pointed out earlier, he also said that there are a lot of different things that the committee could do. Here are his early projections: Worcester: UND vs. Princeton Boston College vs. Minnesota Albany: Miami vs. Niagara Denver vs. Michigan State Madison: Michigan vs. Air Force St. Cloud vs. Wisconsin Colorado Springs: New Hampshire vs. Notre Dame Colorado College vs. Clarkson Quote
gopherz Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 from brads blog, a early projection from a uscho staff member One of the USCHO bracket experts here at the Final Five says he thinks it is very likely that UND will play Princeton in the first round. "That's the way the seeds match up and I don't see any reason to change that," he said. As he pointed out earlier, he also said that there are a lot of different things that the committee could do. Here are his early projections: Worcester: UND vs. Princeton Boston College vs. Minnesota Albany: Miami vs. Niagara Denver vs. Michigan State Madison: Michigan vs. Air Force St. Cloud vs. Wisconsin Colorado Springs: New Hampshire vs. Notre Dame Colorado College vs. Clarkson In a bracket with UND again!!! HMM... Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 In a bracket with UND again!!! HMM... yeah, getting a little old to me regarding the NCAA and that decision. not sure what everyone else thinks but thats my take. 3 years in a row Quote
gopherz Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 yeah, getting a little old to me regarding the NCAA and that decision. not sure what everyone else thinks but thats my take. 3 years in a row I don't see why thats a smart move for attendance either, 2 teams that will bring plenty of fans on their own... Would be quite an awesome matchup if both of us won and had to battle for a frozen four spot though. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 whens the final bracket come out 1030 tomorrow morning espn2 Quote
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