AZSIOUX Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 VS Fighting Sioux - I think we all know about this team i guess the only question will be who gets the healthy scratches. i say foyt and martens and forney, vandevelde and bishop will dress. Quinnipiac Bobcats (ECACHL) Quinnipiac University Location: Hamden, Conn. Founded: 1929 Enrollment: 5,571 Colors: Blue and Gold http://quinnipiacathletics.fansonly.com/sp...ockey-body.html Head Coach: Rand Pecknold (Connecticut College '90) Overall/Quinnipiac Record: 222-136-33, 12th season GOALIE - Bud Fisher.Sophmore. 2005/06 record, 18-14-1., 2.56 GAA, .904 SV% 2005/06 record - overall 20-18-1 conference 8-13-1 top 7 scorers from last season return finished tied for 9th in conference out of 12 teams in 2005/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 VS Fighting Sioux - I think we all know about this team i guess the only question will be who gets the healthy scratches. i say foyt and genoway then forney and bishop will dress. Quinnipiac Bobcats (ECACHL) Quinnipiac University Location: Hamden, Conn. Founded: 1929 Enrollment: 5,571 Colors: Blue and Gold http://quinnipiacathletics.fansonly.com/sp...ockey-body.html Head Coach: Rand Pecknold (Connecticut College '90) Overall/Quinnipiac Record: 222-136-33, 12th season GOALIE - Bud Fisher.Sophmore. 2005/06 record, 18-14-1., 2.56 GAA, .904 SV% 2005/06 record - overall 20-18-1 conference 8-13-1 top 7 scorers from last season return i noticed that they had lost to michigan last year twice and cornell everytime they played(im pretty sure 4times), and besides that they are winning against stereotypically "weak" teams...my thoughts are that UND will sweep, but it will be similar to how they played against the bisons...which is relying more on the individual talents that UND has...i dont think that these will be easy wins though, Q is a hard working team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 It looks like they have been recruiting heavily in western Canada and I notice that they are the team that picked up Wong. However, other than Cashmen there isn't anyone in their lineup that should be capable of matching up against the UND roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Ranger Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Alright after seeing one exhibition game now how does everyone see the forward lines this weekend. Some people say keep Osh and Toews together and others say not to. I didn't get to see the game but I would like to see them split up myself. My lines would be something like: Duncan-Toews-Forney? Porter-Oshie-Kozek Zajac-Kaip-Vandevelde Fabian-Watkins-Miller or Bishop I kept the Kaip line together because it sounded as if Hak liked that line yesterday. Wasn't sure on Forney or Bishop because I didn't see Bishop play and Forney hasn't suited up yet. Forney was put there because I didn't know who else to put there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 It is really difficult to think lines after Sunday's game. It was a typical "we just barely started practice" outing. Long periods of choppy play broken up by occasional flashes of brilliance. Duncan's goal was a heckuva shot; Toews' was just plain pretty. Fabian and Bishop both scored through nice hustle, sort of garbage-like, but hard-nosed, hard-working efforts both. I really think Toews and Oshie have to skate on different lines; I think putting those two together on a regular shift will produce awesome highlight reel material, but it just makes defending the Sioux too easy. Putting them out together on the power play or penalty kill makes sense, but that's as far as I'd like to see Hak go with this experiment. As much as I'd like to pick the lines, I just can't based on watching Sunday's effort. A nice takeaway from the game: the defense looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Fabian and Bishop both scored through nice hustle, sort of garbage-like, but hard-nosed, hard-working efforts both. In fairness, you just described every Fabian goal... As much as I'd like to pick the lines, I just can't based on watching Sunday's effort. Good thing we have Hak to do it for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I thought Bishop looked very good & I agree with Mike & said to my wife I bet we don't see those three (Toews - Duncan - Oshie) together other than PP Oshie actually did'nt handle the puck like I wanted to see (maybe over hustled) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeypat15 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Keep toews and oshie off the same line, keep duncan and toews together, they like to be more fancy and should stay together, look at the play yesterday. Keep oshie and kozek together as a powerful duo who are more aggressive on the puck rather than having to score fancy goals. TJ didnt do much yesterday, he seemed like he was trying to be to fancy and not enough agression and that is not him. My 2 lines, obviously forney can mix a lot of this up, don't know his style enough. Let's not forget about fabian, god did he look great yesterday. too early to determine the other two lines: porter-toews-duncan kozek-kaip-oshie Also keep radke and finley together on D, or finley and jones, need to keep enforcers together, and players of the same style together rather than splitting them up D lines: Lee-Chorney Bina-Genoway/Jones Radke-Finley/Jones Lastly, right now phil needs to be in goal, but we need to give anthony a couple chances. So he gave up his first shot, but now he's given himself a challenge to win back the fans from the start. Phil looked slow in net, and i miss the way jordy plays the puck. Personally, im trying to like phil, but between the pipes did not look good yesterday. I'm done with this run on sentence O yea, we need to work on our passing and freeze some pucks before friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 mikeypat.........just curious if you could use some examples of how phil looked slow? he gave up 1 goal. he looked fine to me. not many great chances i guess. obviously you will need to have phil prove to yourself that he is the man. i think he will prove that especially that he will be given the chance to on a every weekend basis. on a side note, no fence to JPAR but he is gone now and has moved on to lowell so to me he has nothing to do with anything with the sioux this year and beyond.. i loved having jordy on the ice every night but that era is over. its phils time to shine so lets give him a chance ot prove himself or NOT prove himself. oh yeah, i will not miss the way jpar handled the puck i agree splitting up toews and oshie. makes for 2 VERY good lines. keep duncan with toews. grieco will get his chances i believe but if phil wins then he should stay in net for the most part. im very excited to see forney play this coming weekend. bishop, forney, zajac and vandevelde sure have great size for forwards and i hope they all can contribute in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeypat15 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 mikeypat.........just curious if you could use some examples of how phil looked slow? he gave up 1 goal. he looked fine to me. not many great chances i guess. obviously you will need to have phil prove to yourself that he is the man. i think he will prove that especially that he will be given the chance to on a every weekend basis. on a side note, no fence to JPAR but he is gone now and has moved on to lowell so to me he has nothing to do with anything with the sioux this year and beyond.. i loved having jordy on the ice every night but that era is over. its phils time to shine so lets give him a chance ot prove himself or NOT prove himself. oh yeah, i will not miss the way jpar handled the puck i agree splitting up toews and oshie. makes for 2 VERY good lines. keep duncan with toews. grieco will get his chances i believe but if phil wins then he should stay in net for the most part. im very excited to see forney play this coming weekend. bishop, forney, zajac and vandevelde sure have great size for forwards and i hope they all can contribute in some way. phil just seemed to have some slow reactions in net. I don't what it was he just did not seem quick to react. Can't remember any huge examples. It may just honestly be that Jordan was such a strong goalie in net and were just used to him. As for my comment on jpar playing the puck. I hated when Jpar would make stupid mistakes coming out of the net at wrong times, everyone hated it. But I love that Jpar had two assists, seeing an oppurtunity down ice skating out and making a pass up ice. Phil simply plays the puck behind the net, yes smart and by the book, but at the same time teams can watch tape and really get to know our breakout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I like some of the line suggestions. One thing I will say is that I disagree with mikeypat in that putting the enforcers together on a pairing isn't a great idea unless we're talking penalty kill. Having an offensive minded dman paired with a defensive minded dman brings a balance to the blue line. Now with the likes of Radke, Lee, Chorney, Genoway, and (to a certain extent) Bina, the blue line is becoming more and more a part of the offensive scheme of the team rather than the days of old (Dmen play mainly defense with a few here and there contributing offensively). I think it should be: Lee-Chorney Jones-Radke Finley-Bina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Another reason to have Oshie and Toews on different lines is to help the team out after PKs. I expect that those two will be the #1 PK unit. As such if they are killing alot of penalties (hey, we have Jones ), they will be mixed in with players that are perhaps fresher. Same thing for Fabian and Kaip who would be my choices for PK unit #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Another reason to have Oshie and Toews on different lines is to help the team out after PKs. I expect that those two will be the #1 PK unit. As such if they are killing alot of penalties (hey, we have Jones ), they will be mixed in with players that are perhaps fresher. Same thing for Fabian and Kaip who would be my choices for PK unit #2. Fabian-Kaip and Oshie-Toews are knock out PK combos. I think an alternate could be Watkins as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 From CSTV's season preview: "The Bobcats return 10 forwards, including one of the ECACHL's top lines in Bryan Leitch, Ben Nelson and Jamie Bates. Those three players accounted for 124 points a season ago and were one of the highest scoring lines in the nation. Leitch was named the 2006 ECACHL Rookie of the Year, while Bates and Nelson both finished among the league leaders in scoring." http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/stories/100206aah.html It looks like Quinnipiac likes to score goals and push the play. That should make it fun hockey to watch. However, it also means UND's defense (played by all the players, not just the defensemen) will get a test. I'm sure the UND coaches are stressing the importance of the series and the quality of the opponent, but it's just human nature that the team might not be "up" as much as they could be, especially with Wisconsin looming the following week. Also, with the Bobcats having a top line, I wonder if Hak might match someone against them. Maybe a Fabian/Kaip/Watkins line. Kaip and Watkins can both really skate, and all three have solid bodies to make life difficult for the opponent. Last year, Smaby would have been on the ice with the other team's best line; who will be UND's shutdown defensive pair this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 From CSTV's season preview: "The Bobcats return 10 forwards, including one of the ECACHL's top lines in Bryan Leitch, Ben Nelson and Jamie Bates. Those three players accounted for 124 points a season ago and were one of the highest scoring lines in the nation. Leitch was named the 2006 ECACHL Rookie of the Year, while Bates and Nelson both finished among the league leaders in scoring." http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/stories/100206aah.html It looks like Quinnipiac likes to score goals and push the play. That should make it fun hockey to watch. However, it also means UND's defense (played by all the players, not just the defensemen) will get a test. I'm sure the UND coaches are stressing the importance of the series and the quality of the opponent, but it's just human nature that the team might not be "up" as much as they could be, especially with Wisconsin looming the following week. Also, with the Bobcats having a top line, I wonder if Hak might match someone against them. Maybe a Fabian/Kaip/Watkins line. Kaip and Watkins can both really skate, and all three have solid bodies to make life difficult for the opponent. Last year, Smaby would have been on the ice with the other team's best line; who will be UND's shutdown defensive pair this year? My guess is that some combination of Jones, Bina, and Finley will be the defensive D-men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I like the Finley and Bina combination. A combination of Brute force and Speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyZL Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Fabian-Kaip and Oshie-Toews are knock out PK combos. I think an alternate could be Watkins as well. Don't forget about Porter, that guy is a stud on the PK. I'd go with Toews-Porter, Fabian-Oshie. That's just me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luapsided Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Bina and Finley stay on same line Radke and Lee.. Bishop, Duncan and Oshie toews, kozek and porter Grieco goalie if lamoureux is shaky but I think he'll be fine! Go SIOUX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 (edited) Bina and Finley stay on same line Radke and Lee.. Bishop, Duncan and Oshie toews, kozek and porter Grieco goalie if lamoureux is shaky but I think he'll be fine! Go SIOUX! I like those combinations too, did anyone notice Lee seemed to play the body more in first game. Edited October 4, 2006 by Goon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luapsided Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Yeah he seemed more agressive huh, specially for an exhibition game. I think he'll be a bigger hitter this year now that he has a year under his belt. I hope chorney plays a solid game like 'i thought' he did sunday. Once they develop some good lines and get some more practice/plays going, I think they'll be a fun team to watch(not that there not already ). Is it me or does it seem like are team is slightly, i mean slightly bigger in size this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I like those combinations too, did anyone notice Lee seemed to play the body more in first game. The one weakness Lee had last year was his physical play. Other than that he was very good. If he bulked up a bit over the summer he'll be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikejm Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 The one weakness Lee had last year was his physical play. Other than that he was very good. If he bulked up a bit over the summer he'll be great. Nice first post. Dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Nice first post. Dope. wow mikejm, having a bad night are we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Well, how many freaking times are we going to hear the same b.s. from another casual hockey watcher about how Lee needs to pick up the physical aspect of his game? Brian Lee plays some of the best positional defense of any college hockey player anywhere. He is almost always in the right spot, with the right angle on his man, and because of that he doesn't have to be laying smack on his opponent. I've watched his play for years and as I've said here many times, he doesn't play smash-mouth D; he never has, he never will. Hell, when Moorhead and Warroad hooked up a couple years ago in that overtime game in Moorhead, Aaron Marvin — AARON MARVIN, who's not what you call a big bruiser — absolutely flattened Brian. Knocked him flat on his ass. Clean, open ice hit and in no uncertain terms laid Lee out. I'm surprised Brian got up as quickly as he did. What torques me is people who are used to (or maybe have just heard of) big, bruising Dmen like Matt Greene and Commie, and that becomes the prototype defenseman. Maybe I shouldn't have called the dope a "dope". Sorry. But watch a little hockey before you come on here and start making statements that are not only stupid, but unfounded. (And no, my night's been okay. My not-quite-ex did her best to make today a bad day, though. Thanks for your concern.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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