CoteauRinkRat Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 I didn't realize Leighton Broadcasting owned both KCNN-AM and KNOX-AM in Grand Forks. If you listened to them both you would know that, they have the same news, commercials, etc........ Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 If you listened to them both you would know that, they have the same news, commercials, etc........ I listen to KFGO primarily now (AM at least) because they carry Sioux hockey. If Sioux hockey were to move to a new station, I'd likely follow. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 .... I feel clear channel does a great job and Tim and Swig do great at what they do. BUT it has been all about MONEY with Buning Clear Channel is corporate. Leighton is local and employee-owned. I'd guess that CC (deeper corporate pockets) would be the one offering the larger up-front cash. Owning and licensing the rights, UND can include a "we approve the announcer" clause in any deal. Repeat after me, "We want Tim." Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Owning and licensing the rights, UND can include a "we approve the announcer" clause in any deal. Repeat after me, "We want Tim." It wouldn't be the first time Tim and/or Swyg switched stations because of Sioux sports. IIRC they both worked for KNOX years ago and made another stop before arriving at Clear Channel. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Some scuttlebut regarding UND and NDSU radio contracts. http://www.redandnater.com/forum/viewtopic...f0373440bcd84bf Quote
Bison Dan Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 It wouldn't be the first time Tim and/or Swyg switched stations because of Sioux sports. IIRC they both worked for KNOX years ago and made another stop before arriving at Clear Channel. I wonder if they burned any bridges in the process. Quote
Driveforshow Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Clear Channel is corporate. Leighton is local and employee-owned. I'd guess that CC (deeper corporate pockets) would be the one offering the larger up-front cash. Owning and licensing the rights, UND can include a "we approve the announcer" clause in any deal. Repeat after me, "We want Tim." Last time when these two stations put in there bid Clear channel was out bid ,but Leighton could not give the small towns of ND the games. I heard that again Leighton came in higher ,but the question is can they cover all of ND. With UND in the red it may not be about taking care of the supporters, its all about the mighty DOLLAR. Quote
PCM Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Last time when these two stations put in there bid Clear channel was out bid ,but Leighton could not give the small towns of ND the games. I heard that again Leighton came in higher ,but the question is can they cover all of ND. With UND in the red it may not be about taking care of the supporters, its all about the mighty DOLLAR. Maybe I'm missing something, but if it was only about "the mighty dollar," wouldn't the highest bidder have received the contract? Quote
Driveforshow Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Maybe I'm missing something, but if it was only about "the mighty dollar," wouldn't the highest bidder have received the contract? Rt at that time thought it was more important to take care of the fan, make sure they could listen to all sioux games.Mr Buning and the other hand needs to find a way to get back in the +.I hope that if Leighton gets the bid they can buy enough airtime from Clear Channel to get fan what they deserve. And if the fan in small town ND cannot hear the games it might be a rough road to get their financial support. Quote
legend334 Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 It will also make it a lot tougher to get the kids from small towns...especially for football....which we all know many UND great players have come from small ND and Minn towns....if UND isnt on their radio it will be like the Central Redskins....no one will remember it...when they go to college!!!! Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 I wonder if they burned any bridges in the process. Tim Hennessy has worked at about every AM station in GF. Radio people move around in markets. Ask KFGO's, no WDAY's, no KFGO's "Jack and Sandy." Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 I sure hope someone whispered "guaranteed coverage area" into Tom Buning's ear before negotiations. Quote
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 I sure hope someone whispered "guaranteed coverage area" into Tom Buning's ear before negotiations. I sure hope so too. And yea, I want Tim Hennessy too. Quote
bincitysioux Posted June 8, 2006 Author Posted June 8, 2006 Imagine a wild scenario where ForumComm partners with Leighton on UND broadcasts for radio, TV, and internet. Get wilder: Imagine ForumComm owning both The Forum and The Herald in this scenario. It is getting wild. Quote
bincitysioux Posted June 8, 2006 Author Posted June 8, 2006 Anyone know how profitable WDAZ-TV's broadcast of UND hockey games are? If the WDAY TV/radio loses NDSU sports, could Forum Communications be looking at adding UND hockey broadcasts to WDAY-TV and KBMY-TV (Bismarck) / KMCY-TV (Minot)? The WDAZ connection to WDAY/Forum Communications/NDSU was never ideal for UND, as it limited broadcast TV options to NE North Dakota. IMO, UND either needs to dump WDAZ for NBC or Fox affiliates, or get all Forum stations on board. I don't know if I agree with that. All the other affiliates are based in Fargo, just like Clear Channel. And unless it is game day, Clear Channel's radio coverage of UND is poor at best. I like the way WDAZ covers the Sioux. Another benefit of associating with WDAZ-TV is the fact that it is carried on cable in Winnipeg & Southern Manitoba and is available in about 250,000 homes in addition to the 80,000 or so households it is in in North Dakota and Minnesota. I agree though that it would be optimal to get ForumComm's TV stations in Bismarck and Minot on board. Quote
star2city Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 Another benefit of associating with WDAZ-TV is the fact that it is carried on cable in Winnipeg & Southern Manitoba and is available in about 250,000 homes in addition to the 80,000 or so households it is in in North Dakota and Minnesota. I agree though that it would be optimal to get ForumComm's TV stations in Bismarck and Minot on board.That is a great point. The only North Dakota network broadcast channels Winnipeg cable picks up is WDAZ for ABC and KGFE for PBS. Otherwise, Winnipeg cable picks up Minneapolis stations, KARE for NBC and WCCO for CBS. But Sioux hockey is also what could force Winnipeg cable to switch broadcasts. Imagine what it would be worth to the Fox (KVRR) or NBC (KVLY) local stations if Winnipeg cable switched their feeds (to get Sioux hockey)? That might be worth substantial advertising revenue for those stations. Quote
bincitysioux Posted June 12, 2006 Author Posted June 12, 2006 Today is the 12th of June, the last Herald article regarding the radio deal reported that today could be the day an announcement was made. Anyone heard anything? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 Today is the 12th of June, the last Herald article regarding the radio deal reported that today could be the day an announcement was made. Anyone heard anything? Wondering the same myself. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Clear Channel got the Bid..... Bison back to WDAY and UND on Clear Channel. http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm...§ion=Sports Quote
GeauxSioux Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Herald story regarding Sioux on Clear Channel. http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/14804476.htm Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Interesting that a requirement to carry womens hockey was added to the mix. Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Interesting that a requirement to carry womens hockey was added to the mix. When I read that in the original article in the Herald a couple weeks ago, I found it quite interesting also. Quote
bincitysioux Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 They're saying on Bisonville.com that the reason NDSU cut off negotiations with Clear Channel was because they were told that KFYR would not be available to carry NDSU games. Why would that be? UND football has always been on KFYR, and according to that GF Herald article, will continue to be. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 McFeeley's take on the radio contracts http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm...=Mike%20McFeely Those are the lessons the brain wizards in the NDSU athletic department should have learned as they shuffle back to WDAY, jockstraps in hand, to work out a broadcast deal to air the mighty Bison. The flirtations with Clear Channel are dead, mainly because that entity decided University of North Dakota hockey broadcasts are too profitable to let get away. UND over NDSU? Hopefully a lesson in humility and certainly a slap in the face. Quote
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