Prospective Recruits

[RhettRingers]

1 minute ago, .357 said:

Ok, that's great to hear, but you said last week that UND wasn't getting any "decent" CHL guys. So you're saying or implying 2 different things.

They aren't CHL guys...

[.357]

2 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

They aren't CHL guys...

Can you elaborate on what league(s) they currently play in?

[beastandco]

8 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

Brand deals? Hockey guys don't make much from them. 

Generational talents like Gavin McKenna do. 

[scpa0305]

24 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Scpa, thank you for the kind words. That was a little bit of a “homer” take but my main point is that UND falls in the top 12 programs in college hockey for what they can offer recruits. College hockey has 64 teams, 90% of that would be 12-13 teams. I don’t see there being 5 teams outside of the Big Ten that would provide more to a recruit than UND

I would agree here. But the Big10 seem to be pulling way ahead (we’ll see how far)….we’re going to have to go older. 

[nascar99]

If UND doesn't appeal to any of the top end Dub guys like Kindel, Reschny, Smith, Schmidt, McQueen, Cootes, Bear, Lakovic, Fiddler, Behm, then we're in trouble here. 10 names there, you almost need to get 1 IMHO. I guess more damage was done to the program over the past 8ish years than we all thought

[beastandco]

7 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

I would agree here. But the Big10 seem to be pulling way ahead (we’ll see how far)….we’re going to have to go older. 

Michigan seems to be pulling way ahead and that is because their football team is largely funded by one billionaire which gives them more money to spend on other sports, specifically basketball and hockey. The Big Ten has revenue sharing, which we don’t, and that is a factor. Minnesota’s NIL budget is much closer to UND’s, if not very similar. UND will likely have to opt into revenue sharing in a year or two and that will give them a boost, in my opinion. They never will come near what the Michigans and Bostons are offering kids though.

[RhettRingers]

39 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Generational talents like Gavin McKenna do. 

"Generational" is thrown around too loosely.

[.357]

22 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

If UND doesn't appeal to any of the Dub guys like Kindel, Reschny, Smith, Schmidt, McQueen, Cootes, Bear, Lakovic, Fiddler, Behm, then we're in trouble here. 10 names there, you almost need to get 1 IMHO. I guess more damage was done to the program over the past 8ish years than we all thought

Our reputation didn't seem very damaged in that we got some very good portal transfers this spring. We'll see where all these guys end up when the smoke clears. 

 @RhettRingers stated that UND was currently in talks with a few blue chip western Canadians. Waiting for him to elaborate on what league(s) they play in.

[beastandco]

12 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

"Generational" is thrown around too loosely.

He would be the best draft prospect to ever play in college hockey. Hes probably the best prospect since Mcdavid 

[scpa0305]

23 minutes ago, .357 said:

Our reputation didn't seem very damaged in that we got some very good portal transfers this spring. We'll see where all these guys end up when the smoke clears. 

 @RhettRingers stated that UND was currently in talks with a few blue chip western Canadians. Waiting for him to elaborate on what league(s) they play in.

High end prospects vs portal transfers are two completely different things. Were any of the transfers even drafted?

[.357]

9 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

High end prospects vs portal transfers are two completely different things. Were any of the transfers even drafted?

So a high-value portal transfer doesn't look at the reputation of a school like a drafted player does? Hmm, interesting take. 

If a program has a damaged reputation or is in shambles, chances are high it isn't getting any quality players, drafted or not. 

[cberkas]

26 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

High end prospects vs portal transfers are two completely different things. Were any of the transfers even drafted?

None were

Lost 3 gained 0

[brianvf]

2 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

He’s ranked as a 1st rounder…but I’m kind of confused how this kid isn’t a top 5-10 projected pick. His numbers are super good. His D might be a work in progress I suppose.

The bolded part seems to represent most of Michigan's roster at this point. 

[scpa0305]

2 minutes ago, cberkas said:

None were

Lost 3 gained 0

And they’ll come in more experienced/ready than say a 4-5 rd draft pick that’s only played juniors. I’m fine with it to help win games. 

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, cberkas said:

None were

Lost 3 gained 0

But we don’t want drafted players anymore as they leave early

[brianvf]

4 minutes ago, cberkas said:

None were

Lost 3 gained none

If the team is attempting to become harder to play against, only one of those "lost" players matters.

[scpa0305]

5 minutes ago, .357 said:

So a high-value portal transfer doesn't look at the reputation of a school like a drafted player does? Hmm, interesting take. 

If a program has a damaged reputation or is in shambles, chances are high it isn't getting any quality players, drafted or not. 

Well….they can’t go to a loaded blue chip Michigan roster can they? They need to play. Not saying Michigan is going to be awesome next year, my reference was only an example. My point  was you need to play.

[scpa0305]

4 minutes ago, brianvf said:

The bolded part seems to represent most of Michigan's roster at this point. 

We shall see.

[gfhockey]

Let’s face it

 

und got left behind it’s a slow trend downward tho and the powers that be need to reverse it

 

will jacks do it? Idk I hope so

[siouxweet]

2 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Let’s face it

 

und got left behind it’s a slow trend downward tho and the powers that be need to reverse it

 

will jacks do it? Idk I hope so

It's going to be a process that won't happen overnight need to make up for several years of passive lazy recruiting. 

[beastandco]

2 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

It's going to be a process that won't happen overnight need to make up for several years of passive lazy recruiting. 

Steps in the right direction have been made

[.357]

37 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Well….they can’t go to a loaded blue chip Michigan roster can they? They need to play. Not saying Michigan is going to be awesome next year, my reference was only an example. My point  was you need to play.

Who says they would have even wanted to go to Michigan if there was room for them there? Plus if UND had a damaged reputation, there are plenty of other quality schools in all the major conferences that Homer, Morris, Menghini et al. could have played at instead of UND. But they chose UND, which means that UND's reputation isn't as tarnished as some think.

Contrary to what many think here, the college hockey world doesn't revolve around Michigan. It's nauseating how some here put them on a pedestal. If anything, they've demonstrated over the last 25 yrs that 1-dimensional forwards don't win a team championships.

[RhettRingers]

8 minutes ago, .357 said:

Who says they would have even wanted to go to Michigan if there was room for them there? Plus if UND had a damaged reputation, there are plenty of other quality schools in all the major conferences that Homer, Morris, Menghini et al. could have played at instead of UND. But they chose UND, which means that UND's reputation isn't as tarnished as some think.

Contrary to what many think here, the college hockey world doesn't revolve around Michigan. It's nauseating how some here put them on a pedestal. If anything, they've demonstrated over the last 25 yrs that 1-dimensional forwards don't win a team championships.

So why are you so hell bent on a "high end" CHL player?

[The Sicatoka]

I don't care where they come from.

I care where they're going together as a team. 

[RhettRingers]

And none of us put Michigan on a pedestal, we put Denver on it.