Summit and MVFC tie the knot

[The Sicatoka]

https://herosports.com/fcs-mvfc-summit-league-officially-announce-partnership-bzbz/ 

https://thesummitleague.org/news/2025/5/5/general-missouri-valley-football-conference-summit-league-forge-partnership.aspx 

https://valley-football.org/news/2025/5/3/missouri-valley-football-conference-summit-league-forge-partnership.aspx 

https://mvc-sports.com/news/2025/5/3/general-missouri-valley-football-conference-summit-league-forge-partnership.aspx 

[SIOUXFAN97]

accurate portrayal of fenton and patty "negotiating"....

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

what'd ya know....joshy sold out the summit...nice work buddy

 

[The Sicatoka]

Can you count votes? 

The MVFC includes 10 institutions: Illinois State, Indiana State, Murray State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Southern Illinois, and Youngstown State*.

6* vs 4

 

*YSU knows how its bread is buttered

[The Sicatoka]

... but now where the xDSUs and UxDs have influence, Summit, they can add members AND new members are automagically in the MVFC. 

See how today's "loss" is setting up tomorrow's voting majority? 

[Dustin]

I haven't been following this throughout the stages, but I knew some sort of partnership was possible.  Could someone give me the long and short of things, in particular how it applies to UND?  Thanks.

[SIOUXFAN97]

11 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

... but now where the xDSUs and UxDs have influence, Summit, they can add members AND new members are automagically in the MVFC. 

See how today's "loss" is setting up tomorrow's voting majority? 

"can add"...not guaranteed...

don't have to be smart to know fenton is taking the easy way out............and up by the looks of it.

[The Sicatoka]

From Hero Sports link:

Quote

 

The new partnership puts the Summit League in a position of power in adding new members, either from Utah or Texas, as new members would automatically have a spot in the MVFC. 

 

Automagically. 

[FSSD]

33 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Can you count votes? 

The MVFC includes 10 institutions: Illinois State, Indiana State, Murray State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Southern Illinois, and Youngstown State*.

6* vs 4

 

*YSU knows how its bread is buttered

That advantage could last about a month..  If Texas schools or Utah schools are added to tSL you are looking at a 5(MVC)-6(tSL)-1(HL)

[SIOUXFAN97]

8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

From Hero Sports link:

Automagically. 

automagically UNLESS this unknown cap number is _________________   then it's not automatic i guess?

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

From Hero Sports link:

Automagically. 

if the summit league added augie tomorrow and fenton sends the paperwork into the mvfc offices the next day...their response would be ?  

the cap is 10....try again summit league bitches

[SIOUXFAN97]

24 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I haven't been following this throughout the stages, but I knew some sort of partnership was possible.  Could someone give me the long and short of things, in particular how it applies to UND?  Thanks.

nothing changes for und ....summit-oly and mvfc-football

[The Sicatoka]

10 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if the summit league added augie tomorrow...

Deal in plausible scenarios.
Augie added hockey, not full DI, because that's what they could afford.
Augie is more "Duluth/St Cloud" than "St Thomas".

This is about adding the Texas Trio: UT Arlington*, Tarleton St, and ACU. 

*no FB

[SIOUXFAN97]

10 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Deal in plausible scenarios.
Augie added hockey, not full DI, because that's what they could afford.
Augie is more "Duluth/St Cloud" than "St Thomas".

This is about adding the Texas Trio: UT Arlington*, Tarleton St, and ACU. 

*no FB

so automagically doesn't mean what it usually means???? if the summit adds _____________ university it's a "nope/yep we (mvfc) decide the "cap" not you guys (summit bitches)"....

 

i guess the whole argument is if it the summit adds 2 or 3 tx schools what the hell do they need the mvfc for then?

[FSSD]

The reality is that they didn't replace Patty V.  They just split her role between two existing conference commisioners (cost savings move?).  Plus, any word on what is going on with the Pioneer League?

[SIOUXFAN97]

15 minutes ago, FSSD said:

The reality is that they didn't replace Patty V.  They just split her role between two existing conference commisioners (cost savings move?).  Plus, any word on what is going on with the Pioneer League?

what would be going on with the pioneer league?

[FSSD]

10 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

what would be going on with the pioneer league?

Patty V was the comish for both the PL and MVFC.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, FSSD said:

Patty V was the comish for both the PL and MVFC.

fenton keeps bending over he'll be the commish of the mvc, mvfc, and the pioneer league making millions in st louis...wish him luck

[FSSD]

30 minutes ago, FSSD said:

The reality is that they didn't replace Patty V.  They just split her role between two existing conference commisioners (cost savings move?).  Plus, any word on what is going on with the Pioneer League?

My info is old:  The PL made a change in 2023.

https://pioneer-football.org/news/2023/8/1/IMPORTED_STORY_1823.aspx

 The Pioneer Football League’s Presidents Council named Greg Walter the league’s second commissioner, effective August 1. Walter, who has served as the PFL’s associate commissioner since 2013, brings two decades of collegiate athletics experience, including an extensive background in leadership roles within the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), into his new role with the league.

In addition, Patty Viverito will remain an advisor to the Pioneer Football League after serving as commissioner since the league’s founding in 1993.

[nodak651]

28 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

fenton keeps bending over he'll be the commish of the mvc, mvfc, and the pioneer league making millions in st louis...wish him luck

"ST. LOUIS – The Missouri Valley Football Conference (MVFC) President's Council has approved a new governance structure that recognizes the strong partnership between key multi-sport conferences and positions the league for continued success as the dominant conference in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS)."

The presidents are in charge of moves like this, not Fenton.

[SIOUXFAN97]

10 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

"ST. LOUIS – The Missouri Valley Football Conference (MVFC) President's Council has approved a new governance structure that recognizes the strong partnership between key multi-sport conferences and positions the league for continued success as the dominant conference in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS)."

The presidents are in charge of moves like this, not Fenton.

yes but as commish fenton should be approaching the presidents of the fcs fb schools in the mvfc (and the rest of the summit) with growth opportunties....this isn't growth for the summit...it's same old same old...getting stepped on by mvc and liking it.

[nodak651]

44 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

yes but as commish fenton should be approaching the presidents of the fcs fb schools in the mvfc (and the rest of the summit) with growth opportunties....this isn't growth for the summit...it's same old same old...getting stepped on by mvc and liking it.

You dont know that he didnt. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

You dont know that he didnt. 

him accepting a postion with the enemy is proof enough for me.....

unless he got no's from utah tech, suu, tsu, acu, and or central ark....he just needs 2. and if got no's he aint really trying bc those wac fb schools are circling the drain.

heck probably only needs one of those if st thomas would fund fcs summit football

[SiouxHawkGuy]

Will the tommies ever play scholarship ball?

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Will the tommies ever play scholarship ball?

you would that the pioneer league doesn't move the needle for their students or alums...

you can only play the likes of marist and stetson so much before you wonder wtf your doing.

stadium sits around 6k but they can get 12k in there one way or the other...they did ten years ago...assuming standing room only or something.