Fighting Sioux Hockey Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 On the NFL network channel 23 in GF they are currently showing a film of the history of the Sioux and Bison. Appears to be a pretty interesting show. Quote
bisonguy Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Is it the "Fire and Ice" one from Football America or whatever? Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 This was THE turning point in D2 footbal in my opinion....NDSU came off as self-centered jerks and Rocky as a hokey dork (but he LOVES HIS TEAM )!!! UND came off as a real team and GUESS WHO WON??? and who has WON since....good thing NDSU can dominate the NAIA as a division one AA team!!!! WOW - They are THE ND state university!!...ps...we play THE OHIO STATE in womens hockey this season and guess WHO will WIN???....how you doin' Quote
IowaBison Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 you not only bring up hockey, but women's hockey in a football forum you sioux fans are funny sometimes Quote
IowaBison Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 yep, you've one the 10 of the last 13 games key word being 'last', in my book i hope they are the last ones Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I have heard "Fire and Ice" talked about, but never seen it..... Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 I have heard "Fire and Ice" talked about, but never seen it..... It's a classic if you want to see Rocky as the cornball dork everyone thought he was...(complete with profanity, "bury me at the 50 yard line of Dacotah Field", and "Grampa Hager" references) The story relayed to me by Canuck is they originally planned to do it on the two Cheatham brothers (1 at UND/1 at NDSU at the time) - then they met Roger and Rocky and their, shall we say, contrasting personalities and changed their plans. Hilarity ensues Best part is the tearful Bison locker room after the game and Rocky saying...."just remember...we love you!" like a said...A CLASSIC Quote
dakotadan Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Does anyone know where I can see this or how I can get a copy? I had never hear of this until now. WHen was it made? Quote
petey23 Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 For the record. UND and NDSU played 110 times. NDSU managed to win 41% of these games. Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Does anyone know where I can see this or how I can get a copy? I had never hear of this until now. WHen was it made? Originally, I believe this program aired on TNT in 1996. You can find copies of it in some video stores, like Suncoast, but I'd also check Ebay. Quote
IowaBison Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Tired of getting beat, huh? i'm pretty sure you guys have an open invitation to visit fargo Quote
UND-GARY Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 i'm pretty sure you guys have an open invitation to visit fargo What good would that do us? Done all we could in that building. Of course NDSU wants to play, they got 54 scholarships. Real tough to come out and act big when you just added twice the depth you had the year before, and UND didn't. But, I suppose they feel confident they could actually win one. I suppose they would want the nickel then too, huh? Probably not, you got the Marker now Quote
legend334 Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 the nickel is in my house!!!! we will drink to that butthowe!!!! Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Originally, I believe this program aired on TNT in 1996. You can find copies of it in some video stores, like Suncoast, but I'd also check Ebay. I did see it on Ebay a few months ago...search in titles AND descriptions for "fighting sioux" (without the quotes) Quote
LennonIsTheMan Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Just make up your mind which side of that fence you want sit on. You can't have it both ways. It's kinda hard to pick which side of the fence you want to be on when your nuts are caught. Quote
IowaBison Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 i don't care if we play again, but this is not the sentiment of our athletic department or at least wasn't last february when the rivalry ended Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 18, 2004 Posted September 18, 2004 but you have to admit - as this thread originally started - Rocky and NDSU REALLY CAME OFF as cornball LOSERS in Football America - HAHA! Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 i don't care if we play again, but this is not the sentiment of our athletic department or at least wasn't last february when the rivalry ended so...if YOU don't care...and (institutionally) decided to stack the deck..don't blame US for not wanting to play you in Fargo. I think UND should have pressed for a game this season UP HERE! Hey...you're big time now...but sucking air for decent games (nice 11,000 attendance for your last two --- OOOHHHHH d-one AA is REAL BIG TIME) I don't blame UND for not crawling on their knees to Fargo to play a "BIG OPPONENT" - Why should they? If you REALLY wanted to play us and, maybe, beat us to prove what a BIG TIME school you are...come on up the I boys....It would be a guarenteed sellout for us (cha-ching!) plus who gives a CRAP if you win because you're division one AA!! See my next post for UND's RATIONAL and SENSIBLE thinking this season....(something you dorks might want to try) . Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Look at how UND's season is going (KNOCK ON WOOD) - If things go as hoped...UND will have the BEST SSI in DII at the end of the season - bar none! 2 Nationally Ranked DII non-con Opponents and 2 regional non-con wins + whatever conference record we come up with=VERY postive prospects for more home playoff games. Let me spell that out for out Bison friends who are UNFAMILIAR with HOME playoff games....best case scenario...a first round BYE then 3 MORE playoff games at the AL - hmmm...that would make 9 PLAYOFF GAMES in 4 YEARS...compared to d one aa ndsu's ZERO Playoff games (projecting NCAA eligibily into the future now...) in 15 YEARS!?! BEST PROJECTED FINISH THIS YEAR? UND - back to Florence BABY! NDSU - 4th place (holding their own weiners and licking their wounds) in the GREATWURST Conference Quote
SiouxMeNow Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 BUT AGAIN!! This all has NOTHING to do with the original TOPIC thread....FIRE and ICE baby!! I notice a lack of NDSU comment about this most EXCELLENT (and accurate) short-documentary!!! c'mon... Rocky: "The scoreboard can't and never will say how much we love you!" :angry: otherwise I'll have to consider this thread: Rocky (again!): "A VIOLENT MEAN-ASS WAR!!!" ps - is MEAN-ASS even a word?? Quote
TheBisonator Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Jeez, SiouxMeNow, what's up your craw regarding NDSU?? Are you obsessed with us or something?? Quote
NorthDakotaHockey Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 The Sioux-Bison football rivalry is probably one of the best in all of collegiate sport. Always intense. Almost always close. Sioux dominated in the most recent years. Of course, that was not always the case. Back in the mid-to-late 80's as I recall, the teams met in GF in November in the first round of the playoffs. Great game. However, one needs to go back to around 1965 or 1966. Sioux were a powerhouse. Roger Bonk. Corey Colhour, or however you spell his name. Dave Osborn I believe. Jim Hester. Anyway, so were the Bison. The Bison came to town with the teams ranked Nos. 1 and 2 in the country. I recall the Bison held the top spot. It was a beautiful October day, in a beautiful college football stadium on campus. Memorial Stadium was packed to the gills. Some said that there were well over 16,000 people in the stadium, and this was back in the mid-sixties. Endzone bleachers were packed. Sidelines were overflowing. Sports Illustrated was there. As I recall, the Bison kicked a late field goal to win something like 18-15. This is just one slice of the great history of one of the greatest college football rivalries ever. Maybe if the NCAA would make a win by a D2 school over an D1 school worth more points toward postseason worth more than a win over the Sisters of the Poor, the rivalry will begin anew. Funny thing. The Bison are now the new Sisters of the Poor in Division I-AA. Relegated to years of obscurity, to go along with years of envy. Quote
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