NorthDakotaHockey Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Here we go . . . If I know how . . . . Tournament Bracketology Quote
NorthDakotaHockey Posted February 19, 2004 Author Posted February 19, 2004 Wow. Look out West. Buy your tickets now. The World still has some good seats, and reasonable plane fare can still be had. But not for long . . . . Quote
Diggler Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Either of those scenarios , I would be more than happy with. Wisconsin is the best of the other 3 in both of tehm. I'd like UND's chances despite the Massacre in Madion. Gotta like how both scenarios have everyone's favorite junior college playing Meeeeechigan. Quote
Fighting Sioux Fan Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 So the West is probably going to be North Dakota vs Bemidji St, and Denver U. against a WCHA team. Who will be the remaining seed? Quote
NorthDakotaHockey Posted February 20, 2004 Author Posted February 20, 2004 For those of you who do not want to link to USCHO, here is their February 18 speculation . . . . . West Regional: 16 Bemidji State vs. 1 North Dakota 12 Denver vs. 7 Minnesota Midwest Regional: 14 Brown vs. 4 Michigan 11 Ohio State vs. 5 Minnesota-Duluth East Regional: 13 Michigan State vs. 3 Maine 10 Wisconsin vs. 6 St. Cloud State Northeast Regional: 15 Holy Cross vs. 2 Boston College 9 Miami vs. 8 New Hampshire Quote
Wilbur Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I would love to see a bracket with Duluth and Minnesota meeting in the quarter finals......now that would be some college hockey!!!!!! Quote
redwing77 Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 either way, it virtually (pending a miracle), guarantees Hockey East one representative in the Frozen Four. I'm not saying they don't belong. I'm actually saying that is good because that means that ESPN is less likely to preempt the games Quote
Marty Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I would love to see a bracket with Duluth and Minnesota meeting in the quarter finals......now that would be some college hockey!!!!!! That's not funny. Why would you even say something like that. If the Sioux played the Gophers in the second round it would be the greatest day of my life because there is no way the Sioux will lose. They can't lose, they just can't. The Gophers can't win three in a row, they just can't. Quote
sagard Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 One thing to look for is Maine will have a very difficult time holding their #1 seed. I'm guessing when the conference playoffs are done the #1's will be UND, UMD, BC and Michigan. Maine will be the top #2 and the Gophers next. Quote
Siouxhockey03 Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 One thing to look for is Maine will have a very difficult time holding their #1 seed. I'm guessing when the conference playoffs are done the #1's will be UND, UMD, BC and Michigan. Maine will be the top #2 and the Gophers next. i agree Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I'm not saying they don't belong. I'm actually saying that is good because that means that ESPN is less likely to preempt the games ESPN wouldn't do such a thing, yeah right. They have to get an East team into it or they will have nothing to talk about. Quote
jloos Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 For those of you who do not want to link to USCHO, here is their February 18 speculation . . . . . West Regional: 16 Bemidji State vs. 1 North Dakota 12 Denver vs. 7 Minnesota Midwest Regional: 14 Brown vs. 4 Michigan 11 Ohio State vs. 5 Minnesota-Duluth East Regional: 13 Michigan State vs. 3 Maine 10 Wisconsin vs. 6 St. Cloud State Northeast Regional: 15 Holy Cross vs. 2 Boston College 9 Miami vs. 8 New Hampshire Two first round games with same conferance match-ups? It will never fly... check it SHOULD never fly. MI ST should not be in the tourny - they are a terrible team this year. From what I've seen the CCHA is no better than the ECAC this year and should only have two teams. IF CC has a strong showing the next couple of weeks they should be in the top 14 in PWR and make the tourny. In that case I could see CC and Denver in Denver and the Sioux moving to MI. Quote
jimdahl Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 One caveat, USCHO's PWR and bracketology treat Mass.-Lowell's forfeited wins as if they were wins. The NCAA hasn't yet announced how it is going to handle the Mass.-Lowell forfeits for the purposes of tournament selection, but I would be stunned if they left them as "wins" as USCHO does throughout its site. From my weblog musing, if Mass.-Lowell's forfeited wins are counted as not having been played, their forfeited losses are maintained, and you use an RPI bonus of .005, .003, .001, B.C. is already ahead of UND in the PWR. I can understand why USCHO is hesitant to put any adjustment in place until it's known, but it makes it quite likely that thier RPI/PWR numbers will turn out to have been different from those the NCAA uses for tournament selection. FYI, the RPI and PWR on this site are calculated with the assumption that Mass.-Lowell forfeits will be handled as I described above. I've also newly updated both screens to list the number of bonus games for each team (if the math is tough, USCHO has a handy bonus calculator that does the math for you, but using their forfeit assumptions). Quote
UMDDogz Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 I hope you're right about UMD getting a #1 seed. *crossing fingers* Quote
Smoggy Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Here's the update link for Feb. 25: USCHO Brackets Here's what they boil it down to: West Regional: 15 Holy Cross vs. 3 North Dakota 11 Ohio State vs. 6 Minnesota Midwest Regional: 13 Notre Dame vs. 4 Minnesota-Duluth 12 Denver vs. 5 Michigan East Regional: 14 Colgate vs. 2 Maine 9 Miami vs. 7 Wisconsin Northeast Regional: 16 Bemidji State vs. 1 Boston College 10 St. Cloud State vs. 8 New Hampshire Amazingly enough, we dropped to third in the PWR and UMD is now in fourth. A split would probably help UND more, since they beat a top ten team on the road. Feel free to correct me on that Jim. Either way, I think it makes this an even bigger series. I'd be curious to see if UMD got ahead of UND, if they'd be sent to Michigan or Colorado. Quote
UMDDogz Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Amazingly enough, we dropped to third in the PWR and UMD is now in fourth. A split would probably help UND more, since they beat a top ten team on the road. Feel free to correct me on that Jim. Either way, I think it makes this an even bigger series. I'd be curious to see if UMD got ahead of UND, if they'd be sent to Michigan or Colorado. My guess, should UMD finish ahead of the Sioux in the PWR (BIG if), is that they would be sent to MI. Closer to Daloot. (They still care about that in the NCAA's, right?) Quote
NorthDakotaHockey Posted February 26, 2004 Author Posted February 26, 2004 I would love to see the Sioux and Gophers hook up at the World. Maybe a little payback for last year at the Maroosh. Of course, we cannot look past a first round matchup. Perhaps like we did last year. Who was that Ferris State Hobey candidate who killed us last March? Cripes, was that a depressing game. This year. New team. New venue. Different result. Quote
UMDDogz Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Who was that Ferris State Hobey candidate who killed us last March? Chris Kunitz? Quote
sagard Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 I would love to see the Sioux and Gophers hook up at the World. Maybe a little payback for last year at the Maroosh. Be careful of what you wish for! Actually I'm kind of hoping it works out that way as well. Of the current #1 seeds, I think Maine is the team most likely to lose their seed, with Michigan potentially sneaking in as the last top seed. UND will not lose their comparison with UMD, unless they lose three straight to UMD. Very unlikely. Quote
Smoggy Posted March 4, 2004 Posted March 4, 2004 (edited) Here's the March 3 update: See link for explanation/reasons. USCHO Bracketology No Bonus Midwest Regional: 13 Colgate vs. 4 Minnesota-Duluth 9 Denver vs. 5 Michigan West Regional: 16 Bemidji State vs. 1 North Dakota 10 Miami vs. 8 Wisconsin East Regional: 14 St. Cloud State vs. 3 Maine 12 Notre Dame vs. 6 Minnesota Northeast Regional: 15 Holy Cross vs. 2 Boston College 11 Ohio State vs. 7 New Hampshire Very interesting to see that St. Cloud drops out of the PairWise when the bonus is included (I didn't post it, because there could be different bonus amounts, and the brackets change with each one). I like the chance to face Wisconsin again. It should be noted that we will probably drop in the PWR after this weekend, and therefore could see a team like Minnesota who is ranked higher. Edited March 4, 2004 by cheeringsiouxfromsmoggycali Quote
Smoggy Posted March 4, 2004 Posted March 4, 2004 In the 5-3-1 bonus, Notre Dame will play Wisconsin in our bracket. In the 3-2-1 bonus, Miami will play Wisconsin. I'd rather see Miami, but I don't think Notre Dame would be Wisconsin again. Quote
bigmrg74 Posted March 5, 2004 Posted March 5, 2004 Oh Vay!! Somebody wake me when they finallize the selections. Looks like you boys won't get a chance to come to GR to play the Van Andel. Too bad, would love to see some of you guys again in the Laker Nation's backyard. Quote
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted March 5, 2004 Posted March 5, 2004 Oh Vay!! Somebody wake me when they finallize the selections. Looks like you boys won't get a chance to come to GR to play the Van Andel. Too bad, would love to see some of you guys again in the Laker Nation's backyard. No offense, but we would rather avoid playing Michigan in Michigan....that has been the death of quite a few WCHA NC conteneders in the past. So we view it as a good thing. Quote
bigmrg74 Posted March 5, 2004 Posted March 5, 2004 *oh, this might get me in trouble. oh what the heck* And why would you guys do that?? Are you guys scared of Michigan or something??? Quote
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted March 5, 2004 Posted March 5, 2004 *oh, this might get me in trouble. oh what the heck* And why would you guys do that?? Are you guys scared of Michigan or something??? Nah, we just want them to eliminate tUMD for us. Quote
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