COMMITTED UND Recruits

[brianvf]

Updated Commit Stats as of Oct 20:

• Simpson is heating up...last 5 games he is at 3-5-8
• Simpson tied for the USHL lead in both points and assists

Forwards

• B. Schultz (USHL Waterloo) - '05: 8gp - 1g/3a
• Pilgrim (USHL Tri-City) - '06: 10gp - 1g/3a
• A. Schultz (USHL Chicago) - '06: 6gp - 2g/2a
• O'Neill (WHL Edmonton) - '07: 12gp - 4g/2a
• Sanderson (USHL Muskegon) - '07: 10gp - 4g/3a
• Simpson (USHL Youngstown) - '07: 11gp - 5g/10a
• Jundt (WHL Calgary) - '08: 8gp - 1g/1a
• Williams (WHL Saskatoon) - '08: 10gp - 4g/5a
• DeMars (WHL Penticton) - '09: 10gp - 0g/1a
• Grubb (SSM 18U Prep) - '09: 11gp - 3g/6a
• McKamey (WHL Victoria) - '09: 0gp - 0g/0a -- Injured

Defensemen

• MacKenzie (WHL Edmonton) - '06: 12gp - 4g/5a
• Lindberg (USHL Fargo) - '07: 8gp - 2g/3a
• Penner (USHL Fargo) - '08: 3gp - 0g/0a -- Injured

Goalies

• Heil (USHL Madison) - '06: 6gp - 2.19 / .914 (4-2-0)

[dustnyou]

Eli McKamey making his season debut tomorrow night for Victoria. 

[beastandco]

16 minutes ago, dustnyou said:

Eli McKamey making his season debut tomorrow night for Victoria. 

Excellent news

[brianvf]

26 minutes ago, dustnyou said:

Eli McKamey making his season debut tomorrow night for Victoria. 

Nice!  Much sooner than originally reported.
Hopefully he gets back into game shape quickly.

[tnt]

Carson Pilgrim starting to find the points a bit more consistently lately.  Will be interesting to see who will come in next year with not many forwards leaving, but we know that can change in a heartbeat.

[beastandco]

18 minutes ago, tnt said:

 Will be interesting to see who will come in next year with not many forwards leaving, but we know that can change in a heartbeat.

I was just thinking about this today. Cooper Williams, Cooper Simpson, and Brock Schultz will come for sure. After those three, it is up in the air.

Most of these guys are not Bryn’s recruits. It would not surprise me to see a couple of commitment changes. 
 

I also anticipate Bryn dipping into the uncommitted CHL pool for a guy or two for next year. 
 

 

[brianvf]

19 minutes ago, beastandco said:

I was just thinking about this today. Cooper Williams, Cooper Simpson, and Brock Schultz will come for sure. After those three, it is up in the air.

Most of these guys are not Bryn’s recruits. It would not surprise me to see a couple of commitment changes. 

I also anticipate Bryn dipping into the uncommitted CHL pool for a guy or two for next year. 

Some really good shooters coming in.  Both Cooper's can rifle the puck.
You could put those two and Zellers all on three different lines and have a sniper on all of them.
Combine that with hopefully Reschny and Verhoeff spending another year in GF...plus some CHL studs (looking at you, Landon).
Next year could be another step up IMO.  I know we'll lose a lot on the backend, but really like what Bryn and Co have lined up.

[beastandco]

26 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Some really good shooters coming in.  Both Cooper's can rifle the puck.
You could put those two and Zellers all on three different lines and have a sniper on all of them.
Combine that with hopefully Reschny and Verhoeff spending another year in GF...plus some CHL studs (looking at you, Landon).
Next year could be another step up IMO.  I know we'll lose a lot on the backend, but really like what Bryn and Co have lined up.

 A top priority for next year should be getting a right shot top 6 winger. It’s an obvious hole for this team, even on the power play. McKamey could be that but he might not be ready next year. 
 

I do not think Verhoeff and DuPont could coexist but I hope that I’m wrong. If Verhoeff leaves, replacing him with DuPont would be diabolical. 
 

I am thinking they add one forward and one defenseman from the CHL before next season. The committed list will certainly be shaken up a bit with Bryn getting “his guys.”

[brianvf]

8 minutes ago, beastandco said:

 I do not think Verhoeff and DuPont could coexist but I hope that I’m wrong. If Verhoeff leaves, replacing him with DuPont would be diabolical. 

I think they could coexist for one season.    

Losing Liv, Wiebe, Zmolek, and maybe Emery from our current group of D opens up a lot of playing time for both Landon and Keaton to play. 

[I Ranger]

9 hours ago, beastandco said:

I was just thinking about this today. Cooper Williams, Cooper Simpson, and Brock Schultz will come for sure. After those three, it is up in the air.

Most of these guys are not Bryn’s recruits. It would not surprise me to see a couple of commitment changes. 
 

I also anticipate Bryn dipping into the uncommitted CHL pool for a guy or two for next year. 
 

 

I think both Schultz's will be coming for sure. So that's 4. Lose James, Strinden, Rickwood, Young for sure as seniors and then only early departures and transfers. I agree I think we are certainly after a high end CHL forward for next year so will be interesting to watch. Could mean we lose a current recruit and/or someone or a few on the current roster. 

[nascar99]

9 hours ago, brianvf said:

I think they could coexist for one season.    

Losing Liv, Wiebe, Zmolek, and maybe Emery from our current group of D opens up a lot of playing time for both Landon and Keaton to play. 

Emery stays, Rangers are in no rush to bring Emery in, & Emery is in no rush to experience the s***show in New York &/or Hartford.

Jubenvill is who I think will be in the portal, barring a major improvement the rest of this season. Of course, he could see bigger minutes next year, but I just think he'll get a better opportunity somewhere else.

And yes, Verhoeff will be back next year, the NHL team who drafts him will want another year of NCAA development for him.

[beastandco]

2 hours ago, nascar99 said:

Emery stays, Rangers are in no rush to bring Emery in, & Emery is in no rush to experience the s***show in New York &/or Hartford.

Jubenvill is who I think will be in the portal, barring a major improvement the rest of this season. Of course, he could see bigger minutes next year, but I just think he'll get a better opportunity somewhere else.

And yes, Verhoeff will be back next year, the NHL team who drafts him will want another year of NCAA development for him.

Verhoeff is likely to be here next year, imo. He needs to grow into his body some more and work on his skating a little bit. Schaefer is an elite skater and that is why he was able to transition to the NHL this year.

We will likely lose a player or two up front to the portal as well as a player on the back end. I predict they add a senior forward in the portal and two CHL freshmen for next year. Menghini will be the only senior up front on next year's roster. 

So far through the first month of the season, only a couple of guys are showing they are ready to make the jump next season. I hope Schultz, O'Neill, or McKamey really pop the rest of the season to make the decision easy. With so many players available for next season, I would be surprised if most of these guys are not pushed back until they really dominate the level of play they are at. It will be really interesting to see how the new staff handles the current committed list this offseason if/when high end CHL players show interest in coming next year.

[nascar99]

4 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Verhoeff is likely to be here next year, imo. He needs to grow into his body some more and work on his skating a little bit. Schaefer is an elite skater and that is why he was able to transition to the NHL this year.

We will likely lose a player or two up front to the portal as well as a player on the back end. I predict they add a senior forward in the portal and two CHL freshmen for next year. Menghini will be the only senior up front on next year's roster. 

So far through the first month of the season, only a couple of guys are showing they are ready to make the jump next season. I hope Schultz, O'Neill, or McKamey really pop the rest of the season to make the decision easy. With so many players available for next season, I would be surprised if most of these guys are not pushed back until they really dominate the level of play they are at. It will be really interesting to see how the new staff handles the current committed list this offseason if/when high end CHL players show interest in coming next year.

McKamey is nowhere near NCAA ready. 2009 bday he needs to fully dominate the Dub & grow into his frame before getting to Grand Forks. Coming off injury, so it's early, but he hasn't done a single thing that makes me think he's worth bringing in early

[tnt]

12 hours ago, beastandco said:

 A top priority for next year should be getting a right shot top 6 winger. It’s an obvious hole for this team, even on the power play. McKamey could be that but he might not be ready next year. 
 

I do not think Verhoeff and DuPont could coexist but I hope that I’m wrong. If Verhoeff leaves, replacing him with DuPont would be diabolical. 
 

I am thinking they add one forward and one defenseman from the CHL before next season. The committed list will certainly be shaken up a bit with Bryn getting “his guys.”

If Cam York and Owen Power can coexist, then Owen Power and Luke Hughes, I think it could work out.  Nick Blankenburg was on those teams as well.  Are both right handed?  Now if you are worried about ego on either end, that is something a team doesn’t need, but I would think the coaches and Bryn have a good instincts on character.

[tnt]

3 hours ago, nascar99 said:

Emery stays, Rangers are in no rush to bring Emery in, & Emery is in no rush to experience the s***show in New York &/or Hartford.

Jubenvill is who I think will be in the portal, barring a major improvement the rest of this season. Of course, he could see bigger minutes next year, but I just think he'll get a better opportunity somewhere else.

And yes, Verhoeff will be back next year, the NHL team who drafts him will want another year of NCAA development for him.

It will be interesting to see how many guys that see limited action handle it.  Can the coaches get some guys like a Coltyn Sanderson to stick around in today’s environment?  A lot of players available now with the CHL, so you better have your spot lined up, if you plan bolting, and we saw how that works with guys like Perron and McLaughlin, although their leaving wasn’t due to playing time.  
I think coaches know they need to keep around a core group that stays longer, which may be why they split guys like Jubenvill and Laurila until injuries or performance make those decisions themselves.  You don’t end up with guys like Matt Frattin or Brad Malone unless you give them a few years in the program.

[nascar99]

10 minutes ago, tnt said:

It will be interesting to see how many guys that see limited action handle it.  Can the coaches get some guys like a Coltyn Sanderson to stick around in today’s environment?  A lot of players available now with the CHL, so you better have your spot lined up, if you plan bolting, and we saw how that works with guys like Perron and McLaughlin, although their leaving wasn’t due to playing time.  
I think coaches know they need to keep around a core group that stays longer, which may be why they split guys like Jubenvill and Laurila until injuries or performance make those decisions themselves.  You don’t end up with guys like Matt Frattin or Brad Malone unless you give them a few years in the program.

All of this is exactly why it was paramount to hire Bryn Chyzyk as a full time GM of the program. Roster management, planning, and recruiting are so big that the coaching staff cannot handle it day to day, month to month. Chyzyk's knowledge of the USHL plus his Canadian connections positions the program much better moving forward (provided the coaching staff and players can adjust to playing different styles of hockey).

[beastandco]

30 minutes ago, tnt said:

If Cam York and Owen Power can coexist, then Owen Power and Luke Hughes, I think it could work out.  Nick Blankenburg was on those teams as well.  Are both right handed?  Now if you are worried about ego on either end, that is something a team doesn’t need, but I would think the coaches and Bryn have a good instincts on character.

Coexist may have been the wrong way to put it. I imagine when DuPont makes his decision, he will ultimately go to a place that gives him the best opportunity to play in every situation. In all honesty, UND is probably the only team that he wouldn't be the top guy from the jump. UND's chances with DuPont varies drastically based on if Verhoeff stays or leaves. 

[tnt]

37 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Coexist may have been the wrong way to put it. I imagine when DuPont makes his decision, he will ultimately go to a place that gives him the best opportunity to play in every situation. In all honesty, UND is probably the only team that he wouldn't be the top guy from the jump. UND's chances with DuPont varies drastically based on if Verhoeff stays or leaves. 

Why couldn’t he play in every situation with Verhoeff here?

[dustnyou]

Just now, tnt said:

Why couldn’t he play in every situation with Verhoeff here?

Right. Just like Verhoeff and Liv are now. We are going to get DuPont and next season both him and Verhoeff will each quarterback a power play unit  

[beastandco]

55 minutes ago, dustnyou said:

Right. Just like Verhoeff and Liv are now. We are going to get DuPont and next season both him and Verhoeff will each quarterback a power play unit  

That’s definitely possible. I just think it is much more likely for him to end up at UND if Verhoeff turns pro. 

[nascar99]

1 hour ago, beastandco said:

Coexist may have been the wrong way to put it. I imagine when DuPont makes his decision, he will ultimately go to a place that gives him the best opportunity to play in every situation. In all honesty, UND is probably the only team that he wouldn't be the top guy from the jump. UND's chances with DuPont varies drastically based on if Verhoeff stays or leaves. 

Until he commits elsewhere or just signs an ELC, I'm still convinced that DuPont ends up at Denver or Michigan.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

58 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

Until he commits elsewhere or just signs an ELC, I'm still convinced that DuPont ends up at Denver or Michigan.

For what it's worth, DuPont follows and occasionally "likes" posted by UND hockey on social media. We're at least on his mind/radar.

[beastandco]

3 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

For what it's worth, DuPont follows and occasionally "likes" posted by UND hockey on social media. We're at least on his mind/radar.

Both of his parents follow UND hockey as well. His mom only follows UND hockey and Harvard. 
 

His dad is private so I can only see that he follows UND through their page.

[brianvf]

Updated Commit Stats as of Oct 26:

• Pilgrim piling on some points lately...3-5-8 in his last 5 games
• Both McKamey and Penner back playing again from their injuries

Forwards

• B. Schultz (USHL Waterloo) - '05: 10gp - 1g/3a
• Pilgrim (USHL Tri-City) - '06: 13gp - 4g/6a
• A. Schultz (USHL Chicago) - '06: 8gp - 2g/3a
• O'Neill (WHL Edmonton) - '07: 15gp - 7g/3a
• Sanderson (USHL Muskegon) - '07: 12gp - 4g/5a
• Simpson (USHL Youngstown) - '07: 13gp - 5g/10a
• Jundt (WHL Calgary) - '08: 9gp - 1g/1a
• Williams (WHL Saskatoon) - '08: 12gp - 4g/6a
• DeMars (WHL Penticton) - '09: 11gp - 0g/1a
• Grubb (SSM 18U Prep) - '09: 11gp - 3g/6a
• McKamey (WHL Victoria) - '09: 3gp - 0g/0a

Defensemen

• MacKenzie (WHL Edmonton) - '06: 15gp - 4g/6a
• Lindberg (USHL Fargo) - '07: 10gp - 2g/4a
• Penner (USHL Fargo) - '08: 4gp - 0g/0a

Goalies

• Heil (USHL Madison) - '06: 8gp - 2.77 / .893 (5-3-0)

[Scratch]

13 hours ago, beastandco said:

Coexist may have been the wrong way to put it. I imagine when DuPont makes his decision, he will ultimately go to a place that gives him the best opportunity to play in every situation. In all honesty, UND is probably the only team that he wouldn't be the top guy from the jump. UND's chances with DuPont varies drastically based on if Verhoeff stays or leaves. 

I think your right that about Verhoeff maybe being a detriment in DuPont's eyes but hopefully the staff makes it clear to DuPont he's #1 from the first day. I think we're gonna get him