Oil Booms in North Dakota

[UNDBIZ]

23 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Are these the same people who on this forum said Williston would pass Fargo for the states largest city?

It's the next Houston. 

[Cratter]

16 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

just one of them.

Watford City could become the size of Minot in 15 years by having a total population of 40,000.

But if that happens Minot will probably be at 90,000+ in 15 years, as Minot was adding more people every year than Watford City during the boom.

[UNDBIZ]

Watford City had an estimated population of 6,500 in 2017.  I'd say they could hope for maybe 15-20,000 in 15 years, putting it more in line with present day Dickinson.

[Cratter]

On 8/18/2014 at 9:58 PM, Nodak78 said:

15 years Williston will pass or will be pushing Fargo for biggest city.  

Yup I guess it was you. 

[Milford torgerson]

5 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Watford City had an estimated population of 6,500 in 2017.  I'd say they could hope for maybe 15-20,000 in 15 years, putting it more in line with present day Dickinson.

This sounds more plausible.  Dickinson has-had a healthy growing pace while Williston was nuts and more problematic.  Really hard to gauge where Williston goes from here.

[Nodak78]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Yup I guess it was you. 

times up.

[Cratter]

7 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

times up.

We are entering year 5 of the predicted 15.  

Just 10 more years.

Going to need Williston to quite losing people though like they have been the last couple of years if it's still going to pass Fargo.

[Nodak78]

1 minute ago, Milford torgerson said:

This sounds more plausible.  Dickinson has-had a healthy growing pace while Williston was nuts and more problematic.  Really hard to gauge where Williston goes from here.

estimates being thrown around for Williston now are 60K in 10 years.  Estimates for Watford is 30k in 10 years.  Williston is voting on 2 new grade schools and an addition to the high school.     Watford is voting on new grade school.  Both Williston and Watford schools are busting at the seems. 

[Cratter]

2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

estimates being thrown around for Williston now are 60K in 10 years.  Williston schools are busing at the seems.

 

Williston's population has been decreasing the last two years.

[Nodak78]

1 minute ago, Cratter said:

We are entering year 5 of the predicted 15.  

Just 10 more years.

Going to need Williston to quite losing people though like they have been the last couple of year if it's still going to pass Fargo.

Williston is gaining in population.  The schools had an increase in students as the oil field had a pause the last couple of years.  Next year the new airport will open and the present airport will be decommissioned.  That will be prime development area and plans are being made now.

[Nodak78]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Williston's population has been decreasing the last two years.

no incorrect

[Cratter]

18 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

no incorrect

The poop count in Williston is down.

https://www.willistonherald.com/news/census-shows-small-population-drop-from-to-in-williston/article_6f51fd68-10f8-11e7-91ea-7ff9e2319986.html

[Shawn-O]

9 minutes ago, Cratter said:

The poop count in Williston is down.

https://www.willistonherald.com/news/census-shows-small-population-drop-from-to-in-williston/article_6f51fd68-10f8-11e7-91ea-7ff9e2319986.html

More fiber, coffee, and water usually takes care of this.   

[Nodak78]

11 minutes ago, Cratter said:

The poop count in Williston is down.

https://www.willistonherald.com/news/census-shows-small-population-drop-from-to-in-williston/article_6f51fd68-10f8-11e7-91ea-7ff9e2319986.html

2 years old

[Milford torgerson]

34 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Williston's population has been decreasing the last two years.

It is seriously hard to measure population in any town in the patch.  Oodles of people still go there for their 2 week ,or whatever length they’re using, but get their mail back home.  It is interesting to note that the largest class size growth is in pre and elementary according to those that I know who actually live among this.

[NDSU grad]

16 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

Many of Watford City residents have corporate jobs at nat gas plants.  Far from transient as in the old oil boom days.  Some people are building houses intending to stay.  And those jobs will only increase as more are constructed and operated.  Watford City HS has the best facilities in the state with the convention center and hockey arena complex right next door.

Minot has Nedrose and South Prairie HIgh Schools near its city limits now too, but those are not big enough for Class A but could be in the future.  Minot is stubborn about keeping its two HS campuses for two years each.

I hope you're right on Watford City.  It would be fun to have another competitive team in all sports in the WDA.  As to Minot, Nedrose has greater potential for increased growth relative to South Prairie.  Many of the younger grades at Nedrose have 50-60 kids per grade, so that would put them at a fairly large class b school.  South Prairie's younger grades are sitting at ~30 kids, but the problem with South Prairie is I could see a scenario where the southern neighborhoods ask to be annexed to Minot Public because of convenience.  That could hurt South Prairie's potential growth.   

[Cratter]

29 minutes ago, Milford torgerson said:

It is seriously hard to measure population in any town in the patch.  Oodles of people still go there for their 2 week ,or whatever length they’re using, but get their mail back home.  

Is it really though? 

Population determinations are pretty accurate these days and they don't generally use mail to determine it. It's electronic these days. And likely use cell tower data usage to help determine these numbers. 

They use the same population protocol for everywhere so if they see a trend downwards, it's likely to be accurate. 

[Cratter]

43 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

2 years old

Which proves my point. Population decreased just like the article states.

[UNDBIZ]

1 hour ago, Cratter said:

The poop count in Williston is down.

I assume this typically coincides with a decrease in population?

[Nodak78]

35 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Which proves my point. Population decreased just like the article states.

minimal from '15 to '16.  Population is up in '18.  This will show up in a few months.

[Cratter]

11 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

I assume this typically coincides with a decrease in population?

https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/north-dakota-oil-town-literally-using-poop-to-measure-population/

[Cratter]

1 minute ago, Nodak78 said:

minimal from '15 to '16.  Population is up in '18.  This will show up in a few months.

After two years of decline it could increase this year. Maybe even be back to 2015 population levels.

[Nodak78]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

After two years of decline it could increase this year. Maybe even be back to 2015 population levels.

Are you an historian.  3 year old article.  c'mom man

[Cratter]

7 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

 3 year old article.  c'mom man

Of course the 2018 estimates aren't out yet.

Do you know how graphs work?

[Nodak78]

6 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Of course the 2018 estimates aren't out yet.

Do you know how graphs work?

I live in Williston and I'm experiencing the growth.  yes I work with graphs.  Even while a student at UND moons ago.