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Would seem that Robert Morris wants to move up in basketball. Their current conference, the NEC, is a DII facilities conference. http://rmucolonials.com/news/2017/1/19/athletics-robert-morris-to-build-upmc-events-center.aspx Pittsburgh isn't far from Youngstown St, so the Horizon would be adding a bit of a big market. Pitt and Duquesne are already there with much bigger backing. The question remains if the Horizon adds two more to go to 12, likely IPFW and IUPUI. IPFW is almost the only show in town. The other option still takes away one Slummit team: Omaha and UMKC.

According to a PA newspaper, Robert Morris may even be invited to the Horizon and MVFC. With Murray St likely tapped by the MVFC when the MVC goes to 12, RoMo makes no sense unless the MVFC fears the Dakota 4 breaking away.

The Horizon is exclusively big city Midwest, not rural as USD is. And the Horizon only has one fb school. If a UNO/UMKC combo is taken, the Summit and the WAC could both be in trouble. The Horizon would still need a travel partner for UIC, either IPFW or IUPUI, another hit against the Slummit. The news does not look good, but not worried at all as some are.

Seems the Mo St badly wants a nearby school as a travel partner. The only ones within 4 hrs are UMKC, ORU, and UALR. Mo St leads the expansion committee for at nine months to get to 12. The other school that will likely be added is Murray St, which had by far a better resume than Valpo. The Horizon's lead candidates seem to be IPFW, IUPUI, and Robert Morris. There is talk the Horizon might go to 12 too. When this is over, the MVC could take ORU, the Horizon takes IPFW and IUPUI, and the OVC takes WIU. The Summit would need new teams to survive and not DII ones: either NMSU, UNC, and UMKC (and the WAC dies) or Mont, Mont St, Idaho and EWU (and the Big Sky lives).

The Mo St president was quoted in the other article. Obviously, Mo St wants more southerly rivals and go to 12 and hence the desire for Murray St. Mo St is the MVC school most likely to bolt if they are not kept satisfied. If a football school is not added, the fb playing MVC schools may be livid. The private vs public divide is now 50/50. These differing reports shown the deep divisions in the MVC, as both show what the reality is from different perspectives. It's not a pleasant "unity."

http://www.ozarkssportszone.com/2017/05/09/missouri-valley-considering-further-expansion-after-valparaiso-addition/ The MVC is still looking to add more teams later. Valpo is an easy team to move now because they don't have to be scheduled for the MVC. Right now the MVC sits at 10 for next year. Murray St is not an easy school to add immediately for fb scheduling reasons. Milwaukee and Murray St may be next.

The Slummit is structurally weak because most of the schools have possible options to leave. Not referencing any Summit school as bad academically or facility wise. Most Big Sky schools don't have anywhere to go. Slummit schools can go if the Horizon and MVC or even OVC spots open up. Why can't you comprehend that? The Slummit needs to pursue FBS with the Montanas and Idaho and then would be perfectly stable after getting rid of ORU, IUPUI, IPFW, and W Ill, which want to leave anyway and may have options. Then it would be a true Summit.

Snowflake Outbreak! There is something seriously wrong with kids today as they won't listen to the truth, even though they have been told over and over. Does this board seriously object to the Pig 10, who posters here throw out all the time? It is a conference that hoards all the money it can, so Pig 10 is appropriate. But all conference try to maximize their income. Slummit is used because the Summit is the slums of DI conferences. Its nearly the weakest conference structurally out there, because everyone wants to leave. When that's alleviated by getting football or getting the Montanas and Idaho for stability, will stop. Nobody wants a bunch of Dakotas schools, as even Omaha wants to escape. If that hasn't been drilled into your noggin, I don't think there is much hope for truth sinking in. The only conferences that have similar bad stabilities are the WAC and Atlantic Sun, as if they lose two schools they are done. Getting DII moveups doesnt help unless they have already been added because they don't add to full members until it's to late. IUPUI, IPFW, W Ill and Omaha are essentially the dregs of DI in the Midwest and the Slummit is only staying alive by keeping them. But recent news show even they might leave. No other university President wants a Dakota centric league, as it's expensive travel, doesn't have much population base for recruining, alumni, and potential students and has its showcase tournament in Sioux Falls, which non SD schools universally hate except that it makes money. Not bashing Sioux Falls or the Sanford Center, but it is not a Las Vegas destination. Slummit does not reference that it is a poor league in play or facilities, as where are the established DI teams that are yearning to join? Denver, ORU, and UND are nearly almost the only established DI schools in its history that have actually wanted the Slummit. Know your history, which you dont. Repeating the warning: the Slummit needs to add football and/or Idaho and Montana to graduate to an unendangered status. When will that sink in to these numbskulls? P. S. Hockey conference are very different, because UND makes its conference money and travel is good for recruiting and there is top knotch competition.

St Mary's dropped women lacrosse on April 10th for next year. Interesting to see if they get the OCR breathing down their neck.

Sounds like the MVC Presidents will be voting on Monday May 8th on new members. If Valpo or Milwaukee are picked, the Horizon would have to move fast to get back to 10 teams next year. The Slummit troubles would intensify. IPFW to the Horizon as a minimum. IUPUI also possible. The OVC takes WIU to backfill any loss of Murray St, as WIU would know that is a safe move in a bus league with so many non-aspirational schools Oh the joys of being in a bottom of the barrel conference, not that we are a member yet.

The bureaucrats at the OCR love to make trouble and spend other people's money on their agendas. Write Hoeven and Cramer to stop the waste of money imposed on UND. Heitkamp probably is backing the OCR.

Mo St cut womens field hockey and they didn't get an OCR suit against them. All the national reports (fake news) by ESPN and SI made UND WIH a lightning rod for discrimination against women.

The new 2018 PG commit, Claire Orth from Circle Pines, MN, must be quite an athlete, as she was a stalwart D on their MN state championship soccer team.

The bizon trolls like you have had an MO that the Slummit isn't a low rent conference anymore and it has stability. What a joke as late events play out. The Slummit needs more teams that want to be with the Dakotas, but yet you still go on and on and on about my supposed lack of vision. You never even realize how bad you are down a slippery slope. You have been wrong about everything and even complained how UND attempted to save you and the Slummit. A reformed Slummit with flagship schools across the board is better than the WAC, but you have consistly failed to grasp any sort of vision. Have consistently warned about the fallacy pushed by trolls such as you that the Slummit is "strong" but yet if an FBS vision is pointed out be me it is mercilessly rejected by the dumb*sses. At least I've been saying an FBS conference of smaller Northern and plains states flagships must be put together, which you have mocked and still do. If you were captain, we'd be on the Titanic going down because you fail to see numerous icebergs.

His dad played at Minot State and mom was a former NDSU player.

Media in Murray confirm that the Racers are still in the running for an MVC bid.

It's just not facilities and scholarships, but actually having more money to fund FBS schools coming to your stadium for the transition and beyond. Liberty has money for that, but JMU doesn't due to Virginia state law limiting how much the public athletic departments can use from student fees. Here is my eventual CAA: JMU, Delaware, Towson, Fordham, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH and maybe Villanova or Richmond or Maine. Army and UMASS can join later. Most of them are over or have plans for at least 15k seats. That's a very strong academic conference, much stronger than the Belt or CUSA. FCS loses more than FBS if one has a conference.

Murray St needs to schedule for its fb, and doubt the OVC or MVFC would be willing to rearrange now at this late date. But IMHO, 2018-19 is possible still for Murray St as that will give time for fb schedules to be adjusted. The OVC also charges much larger exit fees for little notice. The fb schools in the MVC would be absolutely livid if they didn't get a new fb playing member. They have bent backwards over for the privates too many times.

Some day maybe. Almost the whole of the Horizon used to be members of the Slummit, then they graduate 9n.

Sounds like Valpo and Murray St will be announced next Monday to the MVC, which might not go to 12 til later. Maybe the Horizon goes to 11 or 12 too, and take both the IP's off our hands.

So show proof that Murray St, UW-Milwaukee, and Omaha were lusting for the MVC last year or years ago. You can't because they don't openly talk about it, as it makes their current conference less stable, but that's obviously beyond the scope of your narrow and uncurious mind. Guess NDSU is a very unaspirational school according to you.

I just can't help but chuckle at how Gene Taylor thought he could get NDSU in the MVC by remodeling the BSA. It turned out second rate center and it still didn't get them even an MVC visit after $40 some million. Now NDSU has fallen behind on fb facilities in their quest for the MVC.

Went on many boards with my scenarios of the WAC and CAA going FBS. They all accused me of lunacy and said the WAC now can't invite FCS schools to FBS and the NCAA would never allow waivers for an FBS transition. They were all wrong and I have yet to be enlightened by your postings, as their a bunch of B.S. There is a reason that James Madison has rejected the Sun Belt and that is because the NCAA will give a waiver to the CAA eventually to move to FBS. The CAA just needs to get eight teams ready with facilities and that takes time. JMU would rather associate with CAA academics than the academic dregs in the the Belt.

As long as Ill-Chi is still there, the Horizon will be a bus league for Green Bay. The IP schools going to the Horizon would just make it better for the Phoenix. Wisconsin doesn't want anything but a bus league for their DI schools outside the B1G that must have public money allocated. That eliminates any movement except to the MVC.

Some one would have to get a hold of those signing papers. Schools usually put in an "out" if their smart about it.