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IPFW has been evaluating whether to even stay DI, or dropping back to DII or even DIII . Not sure what has happened since last December. http://www.ipfwcommunicator.org/students-speak-out-about-the-sports-budget/ Would imagine a bus league like the Horizon would be cheaper. If they were the only eastern team in the Slummit left, they might be forced dropping down financially.

Twitter now says Valpo and Murray St have invites in hand.

As FargoBison said, the WAC just had too many moving parts. As The Sicatoka said, the NCAA has relaxed is FCS to FBS rules by allowing Liberty to move up without an FBS conference invite. As an investor, most often companies have to changes plans as the regulations change, but you wouldn't know anything about that. I suspect there will be at least one other conference moving up within a few years: part of the CAA.

So this is how it's going to come down. The Slummit will be desperate for teams, as at least one or two of the eastern schools will leave in the aftermath of the MVC and Horizon expanding. The Slummit approaches Idaho and the Montanas among others. Idaho's President is having quite the trouble with FBS backers there, and donations and interest is way down. Idaho publicly states that if the Slummit can get support for moving up to FBS with at least 8 fb playing teams, the Vandals are in. The Idaho President suddenly becomes a hero there and suddenly donations go way up. To get eight teams, the Montanas are approached publicly. The Montanas hem and haw, but they agree for academic reasons that they like the Slummit better and it would be the only way they can afford FBS, because the MWC is way too expensive to compete in. EWU says they will make it work, as they are still in a stadium fundraising. They need the Montanas and Idaho. NDSU says yes right away. The SD schools say if this is the only way to save the Slummit, they are in. UND says the only was they can go FBS is with a major stadium donation. Within weeks, it happens. Denver stays because it likes the footprint. Whatever school left of IPFW, IUPUI, or W Ill suddenly inquires of the OVC and get a spot. ORU chooses to go to the WAC because is has better basketball potential than the Southland. If Omaha is still in the Slummit, it can choose the WAC or stay. Weber St expresses some interest, but doesn't join until later. NMSU would join once a FBS transition is complete for the league, which will be several years. Wichita St joins for fb only, as it needs a starting point and teams to transition with. The core eight teams finally provide a stable conference as none of them will get interest from other leagues for decades. This was all prepared years ago, not seat-of-the-pants Internet message board stuff. Those of you who don't like predictions shouldn't be on Siouxsports anyway, because the board is meant for discussion, not merely news which you can get from the Herald or UNDsports.

It was regarding the Sioux name but asked for any emails between Bresciani and Kelley, as well as all the Presidents in the Summit and MVFC which I named.

Because Bresciani deleted his emails when I tried get to them.

Asshattery. Do you honestly believe that NDSU admin are sitting around twiddling thumbs before the Slummit Burns? I give your admin more credit than you do. The stupidity never ends from you. Either upgrade the Slummit or bail, as 32 teams have done. No college admin is satisfied with a bottom conference unless they are vagrants just wanting dance money. NDSU fans won't stand for that.

Think Robert Morris will get a look too, but at least one of the IP's will be gone.

Precisely. Wouldn't count out Wichita St fb, as they want to be full AAC members eventually. Also, if NMSU doesn't have an FBS invite, they might need to join. Left out the XDSU's as they thought they were MVC material and it be hilarious if we went FBS first.

The MVC schedules site visits when there is mutual interest. Omaha is probably a Tier 2 candidate though. Valpo and Murray being Tier 1. My theory was the Montanas gave an ultimatum to the BSC that they wanted the Dakotas or they would leave. The other BSC teams voted so the Montanas would stay.

It seems that is finally sinking in in Fargo. NDSU will never be in the MVC. You have to look west now or move up Northern Sun or MIAA schools.

It's so obvious the your eyes glazed over whenever I had mentioned FBS as most of the teams are the same. Same dumb a** posts by you. Your incapable of reading and understanding, because you seem to be so incensed at even the concept. The XDSU's have learned that they are just the fat girls tagging along to the MVC bar to make the other MVC gals look like models. And here they thought there were wonderful and flattering comments, but no one wants them. They finally now realize the whole MVC setup doesn't lead to a meaningful promotion and they are just being used. You don't give any options if the Slummit deteriorates, which can happen if Omaha and the IP-soups leave. It may be the only thing a Dakota 4 have to offer a multi bid conference is a conviction and seriousness to start FBS. You can scoff at that all you want, but we could end us as independents without a very serious run at FBS. But UND has even more facility issues than the other three, as we don't have them yet. Idaho wants an FBS league that is affordable and regional. The same might be true of the Montanas and EWU, as they can't afford to compete in the MWC but a lower league might be up their alley. But you'll deny it til kingdom come.

In retrospect, the cutting of women's swimming was surprising if FBS is in the plans. But there are actually other women's sports that can be cheaper and don't require expensive facility upgrades. Idaho cut back to FCS and is now losing more money and had to ask the state for more. But women's swimming has stayed intact when it could have been cut now. If an FBS upgrade is announced, a school just has to have a plan for adding women's schollies. It doesn't have to be immediate. Getting to 16 sports is the immediate part.

It was well over what was needed and the reduced travel costs haven't even kicked in yet. UND would need some major donations for facility improvements anyway, but think it will come. The main point is that the XDSU fans just might have been forced to give up the delusion that the MVC was lusting after their basketball prowess. Their interested in a new DI program Omaha but not multI dance XDSU programs - for real? Football is all they got to focus on and invest in now, and that means FBS will be on the plate.

How long will it be to get the bison trolls saying that league should be FBS? They were steadfast against a UND WAC but would be in favor of this being FBS. As Liberty has shown, the NCAA can give schools and conferences waivers to be FBS now. The WAC was the only vehicle available to go without a waiver.

Youngstown would not be challenged in the OVC, except maybe Jax St. Supposedly, the CAA could look at them, but even that is doubtful as YSU has a JC reputation.

Seattle was too stuck up to join for anything other than track. We played them, but it wasn't a league game in mbb or wbb or even baseball etc. They had independent schedules because they didn't like the idea of playing away from the coasts. The Big West I think gave them a lot of games OOC.

Dennis Dodd of CBS reports that Omaha will get an MVC visit tomorrow. No word yet on a Milwaukee visit.

Portland has rarely shown fan interest or an ability to spend and improve. Weber St has a track record that blows PSU away.

The NW contingent would like that, but don't know the Seattle U would like to play in the hinterlands.

Am too. Guess UNI and Drake wanted someone more local too. But the MVC could still only take 1 or 2 or 3. Five schools had visits the last time and only Loyola got chosen.

If the Montanas are interested, Idaho sure will be. EWU needs to hang around those three. As someone said earlier, two groups of four isolated schools makes a great regional and academic conference.

Think the hold up is the MVFC doesn't want newbie FCS programs. The Slummit would have to sponsor fb. GVSU and Wayne St make a great pair. But both of them wouldn't hang around long, and the Slummit still wouldn't have needed stability.

The Big North or Great Northern, using the RR as our history marker

None of the MVC school visits will please Mo St much. Are they trying to get in the Belt, after they rejected them once? Is the MVC thinking Mo St will leave too?