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I believe it was first suggested by Leigh Jeanotte and that ilk. Thus it will never be accepted by any Sioux fan. Plus, it's a weather phenomenon, making it even worse.

I believe it's low 70s now

He's old and has been slacking. If he doesn't retire, the alumni will push him out eventually. 3 years tops, but I really hope he doesn't drag it out that long.

Gross. Here come the Sundogs.

It used to be occasionally funny, but you're starting to overplay it

Yeah, based purely on that video, it looks like we need to pay extra attention to outside containment.

Oh no you didn't....

I suggest we keep this thread clean and discuss that stuff in the Richard vs Johnson thread.

Ah you're probably right. He'll at least wait until after the legislative session.

Please be under.

We need a new president sooner than I thought.....

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/growing-west-grand-forks-sets-sights-west-interstate-29-more-housing-business-development Thanks FS4L, I hadn't seen this yet. It looks like the city is making some moves in the right direction, at least in terms of zoning for future expansion.

Didn't mean to equate bigger with better. Fargo has better engineering firms, better accounting firms, better mall, better news media, better hospitals (also, emphasis on plural), Microsoft, Cargill, Titan Machinery, 3 less good universities (2 of which are good for hiring entry level professors), cheaper housing, cheaper everything else, and potential for southern and western expansion via West Fargo. In my experience, Fargo businesses also pay better. Also, bigger does matter when a college grad is looking for a job. Bigger means more openings. I don't disagree with Sic's message. Grand Forks is in need of a culture change. UND is in need of a proactive president.

Agreed. It's actually gotten to the point where there is a bit of a stigma to not get out of Grand Forks after graduation. Take a job in Grand Forks fresh out of college, "Oh, you couldn't get a better paying job?" The abundance of college students makes the businesses think they'll have the pick of the litter so they offer garbage wages, then when they don't get a good employee they blame the city amenities and jack up property taxes for a new library, art corridor, and museum.

I can just see gfhockey, Archie, Hal, and Wes sitting at Judy's together talking over beers, haha.

Well it's obviously McVille-Michigan-Petersburg.... duh.

What if he averages 12 YPC and unicorns and flying pigs storm the Alerus?

I didn't entirely disagree with you: I simply pointed out the challenges Grand Forks faces, many of which are self-imposed/created. Grand Forks needs to start competing with itself, rather than with Fargo. Hopefully that makes sense.

Unfortunately for GF, the Fargo metro has the jobs for UND grads. Bigger and better engineering firms, bigger and better accounting firms, bigger and better mall, bigger and better news media, better hospitals (also, emphasis on plural), Microsoft, Cargill, Titan Machinery, 3 universities (2 of which are good for hiring entry level professors), cheaper housing, cheaper everything else, and potential for southern and western expansion via West Fargo. The city planners of Grand Forks may as well have built walls on the north and west sides of the city. Duluth has been dying for decades and Williston is a long drive (nobody wants to visit Williston for a weekend anyway), so the argument of HWY 2 = I-94 is a bit weak as well. Also, for being a college town, the city of Grand Forks and its permanent residents are quite hostile to students and young adults in general. Due to this, most students have little to no interest in living in GF after graduation. All the city cares about is attracting Canadians to shop there, and not enough thought is given to making the college students and graduates happy. Fargo embraces what it is (a hub city for rural residents and a landing pad for young adults who think MSP is too big), rather than focusing on Canadian shoppers (they're going to come regardless) and spending taxpayer dollars to become an enclave of "art" and green energy that is entirely dependent on the federal gov't. Can GF make improvements to keep young people in the city? Sure, but it's going to take some soul-searching and a change in culture, and that doesn't mean spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on an "art corridor" that nobody cares about.

Also, how can someone (dan) not understand the concept of 2 reasonable people having differing opinions regarding the level of centralization necessary to constitute adequate oversight of branch campuses?

When is the Hyper Bowl this year? Really looking forward to it.

http://forum.siouxsports.com/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules You want to pay particular attention to the rule concerning trolls. You also attempted to pose as a UND fan when you first showed up here. That's 2 rules you broke. You also seem to have difficulties with:

He's actually watching what's been happening at UND?

wrong link

The guy was too outspoken for MSNBC, kinda tells you all you need to know. (before the politics get into it, yes, FOX is just as bad on the other side)