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You will hear about them all at some point..... I guess that kinda explains most of that, but it's not doom and gloom, kids are moving on and moving up. Is what it is. Role players and assist points left there (and throughout west) but, Century might have 3 forwards able to play on a 1st line...maybe on a week-to-week basis that produced even a point last year.... But they will field a 2nd 3rd and 4th line that has produced not a single point at the varsity level. Tendy is solid but it will be up to what's in front of him as well, that may not make sense to you now but... oh well Rechecked the numbers, I admit, I made a small mistake I thought the hockey site had 50 players per page on the top scorers, and I just skimmed the info quick off the top of my head on those kids, so the first two pages thought was 100 its not, it's only 30 per page, but after those 60 it gets insignificant quickly. So, I went through "100" as I originally put up. Of last years top 100 scorers 58 were in the East, of the 42 in the west of which 23 graduated leaving 19 potential returners. Of those 19 there are A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THAT HAVE CONFIRMED THEY ARE LEAVING, and more to come (camps just starting).... the remaining of those 19 were mostly role players and 2nd assist points, and not tremendously notable. It is 4-5 of those top 60 will return, expanding out to the top 100 it will add 7-8 more returners. I won't break those numbers down any further or name names, cause like I said it's not my place to announce them if it hasn't been made public, some have some haven't. Team ND roster public announcements among other things will be telling on final numbers.

Anyone leave HS early? If not I was impressed with some of the younger kids hustle and drive and think they have some decent potential. Could be a really good middle depth team vs other teams maybe 1 line. They have potential IMHO.

uffda...No., Century and Mandan will not be top anything out west it seems You will hear about them all at some point but the exodus continues.... and we haven't even hit jr camp season. The Bottineau goalie Lynnes signed with Wenachee 18U in the CSSHL, they had a chance to contend if he had stayed, bummer. "As of now" the WDA returns only 5 kids that finished in the top 100 in scoring statewide last year, and there isn't a lot of bantams coming up that are anywhere near remarkable. Jamestown is maybe a team I wouldn't sleep on, I would not be surprised at all by a Jamestown WDA championship 1-3 Minot, Jamestown, Legacy, .....roll the dice 4-5 Mandan (2 tendys but nothing else), Century (what will be left by Nov?) another dice roll 6-8 Bottineau or Dickinson or BHS pretty safe bets 9 Williston 10 Hazen. WF, GPR, GF are all losing big pieces but, in a surprise, to absolutely nobody, GF has the depth to reload Picking anything other than a RR GFC Final would be foolhardy.

Men's teams in the east are big on this...

This isn't an "ID" camp its a very quietly held invite only camp that is purposely targeted at specific prospective players. It's not really what you think about in comparison to the old UND hockey school camps or a Jr's or AAA camp

Contrary, I think the experiences within the AAA Tier 1 Yout hockey environment was beneficial in ways but also full well seeing the predatory nature of the vast majority of the AAA world... ..EDIT: But in all retrospect, of all the options out there. If I HAD to leave..... I'd recommend finding a spot in Minnesota in the PW ages and playing the Minnesota Youth Programming and playing MSHSHL, thats just a better option, the BEST option for those that have to "get out of here".

yeah no , i worded that poorly AAA is anything 18u. there's about 7? different "names" for different organizations that have loose affiliations of AAA programs but as USA designates it "Tier 1 Youth"... but from "AAA" (which is just a label people can apply to darn near anything.... ah hem Northland Hockey for example....) from youth AAA Tier 1 or AA Tier 2 .... what do most people think is the "next level" there kid will get to? I think fewer and fewer people are batcrap crazy enough t think their special little angel is heading right to D1 anymore..... so they must be looking at the "next level" as Jrs.... Tier 1 Jrs?.... USHL/WHL... not likely ( You're legit) Tier 2 Jrs.... NAHL, BCHL? (you're legit but pay to billet) Tier 2.5.... Some SJ/MJ/AJ???? ... maybe some NCDC....maybe (pay2play but masked as fees) Tier 3 Na3HL most all other Canadian Jr A (Pay2Play) Tier Your kid is dogshit and your money is the only reason they aint playing Thursday beer league at 10:30?.... i.e. USPHL? My point is that there's really not much actual opportunity for legit "next level" advancement, (TIER 1 or Tier 2 JRs, with a goal of playing beyond that in legit college/pro leagues) So the way I see it... and have seen it, 90% of YOUTH AAA/TIER1/2 is absolutely a gigantic waste of money and a terrible disservice to the kids, no matter where a team is located. The people that prey on these families; coaches, advisors Camp runners and the like are the used car salesmen of youth athletics. So in summary 9 out of 10 kids who leave NDHSAA hockey are better off just staying home, saving the money (or playing Team ND and blowing it there if they'd like) and just enjoying the sport. Or move to Minnesota early and play MSHSHL.

So much loaded in the "next level" statement. What is ... next level? College, Juniors? Then Tier 1 Jrs?.... Tier 2 NAHL? Below that's its just a quagmire of mostly BS leagues that are nothing but money run businesses that are taking in from fans and... moreso families. But take a look at the "Drafts.. these other leagues do and its 90% AAA programs that place these kinds into """" JRs""""""" which is mostly just stroking the parents desires to see some type of payoff for the "investments" they've already made. But those AAA programs place their kids at a much higher level than most other avenues, other than maybe whoever the advisor is for the West Fargo kids.... holy. (the other 10%....9.5%... MSHSL 0.5% other HS, and ND is a fraction of that). With how fast things are changing across North America in relation to JR" leagues, its a damn nightmare to understand it all. Alot of suckers are going to be left holding an empty check book and disappointed child.

Someone still has KEMDS KEM derangement syndrome, get help.

After hearing about some issues, and watching some things this past season, this is in no way a surprise.

Committees.... The tool of weak leadership.

The places a kid "will go" and what let other team know where they "will go" can be a factor in who and eventually "when" they are taken. I wouldn't look that deeply into it.

Well when two people love each other, they spend special time alone and then mommy has a big tummy for a bit ..... yadda yadda yadda GF is a nice enough place and people & their spawn stick around. The End.

It's a fun fantasy to Ifs&Buts over but yeah.... It's not happening

So let a career victimhood consultant in the door and when she doesn't get 100% her way...... cries more victimhood. Who'd a thunk' it?.

It's awful, "ratings" strongly influenced by popularity and by how many organizations they can tag in their social media posts. It's just an ego stroker site to fleece the academy and AA parents of another monthly fee. Its Jet magazine of the modern day youth hockey.

ccm NIT start this weekend could be some info or movements coming out of that.

this 78 Grad thing has provided zero benefit to this board in any way, and frankly has spurred some really terrible unprovable stuff that frankly we dont need. Maybe time for a vacation.

The next time GF team bounces out and gets sent to Eagles, will be the last time a State tourney game will ever be played at Eagles.

Cut men's basketball or the bigger elephant in the room..... ND doesn't need two D1-jv football teams, especially in this new NIL era. Why invest in nothing but feeder programs for the bigger schools?

Bingo

Rumors guesses rumors.... lot of sticks being added to the fire but little facts it seems also need to remember the timeframe of the coaching tenure, the years of uncertainty and changes in how business was conducted during the covid behavioral manipulation era, certainly had similar changes and adaptations in the coaching recruiting world..... could it be that selective memory is going into these general assumptions? Who knows, id love to say just move on but it is important to learn from the past.

Thats a heck of an irresponsible "IF", I kind of view the behavior of dropping these "IF" accusations on a rumor as just as pathetic as the social media posts of the daughter.

The daughters behavior and attitudes displayed on social media are reprehensible, comes of as entitled rich girl wanna be and frankly is everything I don't want associated with UND. In all the years I have never experienced any attitude or entitlement from Brad in the community or in interactions, makes you wonder how or where the behaviors were learned. Disgusting. Embarrassing.