UNDvince97-01

For all the people freaking out about the possibility of considering the B1G: Nobody is saying dive in headfirst if an invite is extended. We have a good fallback situation with the NCHC and have good leverage with the B1G if they want us. (I truly believe UND is their hockey fix) Negotiate a small revenue deal and negotiate when the games are played. If you don't like the negotiated options, then say no and stay NCHC. It's simple, really. We would never leave the NCHC unless it benefited us in the short term and long term.

I put them there because they are "natural rivals" on the BSC schedule every year and travel for them would be easiest. Maybe it's a moot point because of flights and them being near Denver anyways.

Geographically speaking, 2 options.... Big Sky North Eastern Washington Idaho Montana Montana State North Dakota Northern Colorado Portland State Big Sky South UC-Davis Cal-Poly Sacramento State Southern Utah Northern Arizona Weber State Idaho State OR Big Sky East North Dakota Montana State Northern Colorado Weber State Southern Utah Northern Arizona Idaho State Big Sky West Eastern Washington Montana Portland State UC-Davis Cal-Poly Sacramento State Idaho There's some merit to both, but the north/south format probably makes the most sense. Would there be some sort of championship game between the 2 division winners? I'm trying to figure out how the scheduling would/could work. If so, there will be an argument to be had regarding the Montana schools - splitting them or putting them together? Some might want them split up in the event of a championship game like the ACC did with Miami and Florida State. I have no idea about the logistics or feasibility of any of this. Just talking out loud and speculating.

I don't think you nor I know that for sure... However, if that were indeed the case, it's a non-starter. We would need to have some small revenue percentage - peanuts for them, compared to what they are taking in and what UND would bring in return.

Dave has been in contact with UND Baseball. I would be willing to bet he will have some sort of financial impact before it's all said and done. How much is the question.

They will be fine raising the funds for the next 2 years. I'm more concerned about their long term plan...

It was a rhetorical question. Agree again with you about UND being in town...

And again, I'm not arguing with you...

Huh? If you are trying to argue with yourself, have at it. You are proving my point as to why they don't want to have them competing against each other. Why would they?

I would ask the athletic director. He has some really good insight in that link.

All B1G Hockey bashing aside, you really can't understand from a business perspective why they wouldn't want to maximize their potential? Their "sucky" B1G football squad averages 50k in paid attendance. EDIT: Furthermore, I would say they are giving UND and their own hockey squad a ton of credit by saying they don't want the hockey game to affect their football attendance and vice versa.

Huh?...

You are correct, there was a presumed lack of interest back then by Douple. However, the state coffers were full and ND was rich back then too and we weren't looking at budget cuts. UND announced their WAC membership in February of 2013. Which means the last discussion regarding Summit League Baseball affiliate membership took place over 3 years ago at minimum. So much has changed since that time. The Summit League is down to 6 teams for Baseball and now in danger of losing their AQ bid if someone else leaves. The state of Illinois is in shambles and WIU is in trouble financially. UND also has since been asked to cut their athletics dept budget. It's an apples to oranges comparisons between now and then. Things change in a hurry. Ask ndsu and sdsu about the Big Sky. Douple (and Viverito for that matter) and Faison should be banging down each other's doors to secure their futures. You are correct about the strained relationship that was like an open book in the media. You are also correct about the cover-ups and lies. However, the Summit affiliate membership wasn't revisited and looked at this time around when cuts were imminent over the last 6 months or so. How do you not look at that again? It's incumbent upon Faison as the leader of the Athletics Dept to look into it at minimum. Swallow your pride, pick up the phone and make the call. See if it's an option. Douple makes my skin crawl too, but at least look into it. Be proactive. Exhaust all options.

Don't even discuss or reply to Siouan's gibberish. It's what he wants.

I wonder if Summit League affiliate membership was ever even explored to save money on the baseball budget? Could probably save 10's of thousands on travel costs each year. Win/Win for both sides too. I'm highly confident it wasn't though. Again, that whole vision and leadership thing.

So let's recap... Sept 15, 2015: (Email) "We'd like to proactively secure the financial future of UND Baseball. We will do the heavy lifting and raise the money ourselves. Your thoughts, Mr Faison?" (Crickets...no reply.) April 12, 2016: UND announces they are cutting Baseball at a press conference. Faison says there's no looking back. It's over and done with. April 15, 2016: "I just read the first paragraph of the email and skimmed over the rest of it. It wouldn't have mattered anyway." April 21, 2016: "You guys can raise your own money to try save your program (like you wanted to do in September when it "didnt matter anyway"), but we are not subsidizing baseball anymore. You need to have 1 million raised for the next 2 seasons by 2017 and have a plan for the years thereafter." "Leadership"

It's my understanding that some of the credits he is taking this semester will also transfer over to UND as well.

UND endowments have been returning closer to 8% recently I believe. But your point stands on a 'normal, average' return.

Sorry, but you put it on a tee and I absolutely cannot help myself....my apologies in advance...

Like I said, there's a debate to be had on that side too. No anger here.

Head coaching change? Mussman was hired in December of 2007 and coached through the 2013 season. Haeg was recruited during the 2011 recruiting class cycle.

You will have to forgive me for being sentimental on this, but they should leave the alumni house and the original exterior of Gamble alone. Inside is a different story. There's a ton of character value to the big white pillars and Gamble's facade. I would hate to lose that. Of course, there's an argument to be had the other way.

As a fellow Gamble Hall grad, I could not agree more. Showcase it as a centerpiece of campus (Which I know is difficult because of its current location and surroundings). Would there be enough room to the east across the street to add on a 3-level addition of some sort and connect it with an overhead hamster tube? I can't recall off the top of my head.

Ummmmm......yeah????..... Kolpack and McFeely are 2 of their most important university employees. Who needs a PR department when you have two local mouthpieces in your very own propaganda department?

Slight clarification. He didnt say he hired Mussman. He said he extended him. Carry on.