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Ok, Ill bite..If we have had such and advantage why are we in the position we are in?? I am an official in MN for HS football. Worked several years in ND but have worked MN the past two seasons. Trust me UND is down the list for players/coachs. NDSU/UNI are king followed by SDSU. UNI still does a very good job and has a track record to show recruits. Then it's us. What most of my friends and most of you included fail to see is this isn't Div II anymore..The reason SU came back to the pack was a reduction in scholarships. We can't count on that again. Plus they have an actual brand in Div I FCS football. What do we have?? What's our big win??? Montana at home last year?? Also the Big Sky offers more for travel? Do you honestly think most parents can afford to fly to every away game? In the Valley most schools can be driven to. Families can actually attend the games. I totally don't get that? Again if these are such advantages where have the recruits been? BTW I'm not giving up. Very, very happy Muss is gone. Called for his head years ago...Personally I am so tired of the mediocrity in all programs except WVB and Hockey. Not happy with our AD at all. Gave Muss way too long. Plus taking as long as it did to hire a coach did not help the current situation we are in. One last thing. When I said we are going to get Div II talent this year is if I was a kid and getting recruiting by the local schools and others UND would be darn low on the list. The only reason we would have a chance is to promise playing time. Just facts. My kids make fun of me being a UND alum/fan. I am so sick of taking the crap I do at home regarding football. Neighbors included so If I come off as negative//well I am!!! In closing of course we have a great academic institution! But I could list great schools across the country that have avg/bad football programs.

Thank god there is one voice of sanity on this board. Again I'll ask this question. If you are a recruit why in the hell would you choose UND over SU?? Playing time?? People are saying wait til this class is signed. Are you f#$#$%$ kidding me? The type of kids we are going to get at this point are Div II talent...Like the last two kids we just offered. There isn't a chance in hell we get those type of players this year...Zero chance...Have you looked at the kids that have Verballed to Su? We would take half that class and be happy as hell!! They still have another 8-10 kids to add....Again on those kids if we are head to head does anyone think a kid would choose us??/ Reality check people.....we are in a WORLD of hurt...and its not changing anytime soon...no matter who the coach is...

Really?? I don't post often but this is an idiotic statemnt. Their HC is one of the best DC in the FCS. Bohl wanted him BAD!! Was very pissed he didn't go to WYO. Their new OC knows the FCS very well and is a great recruiter. Randy is a very good coach(look at SIU QB's when he has been there) Did a great job at St. Cloud State. Their new DC is held in high regards with the new HC which should tell you something. The remaining coach's from what I've been told are also very good. And we are better why? How about when our coach's have the success that theirs have had we can make a claim. I would bet against it though... Honestly....if I am a current HS senior and am recruited by both schools the choice is no brainer....seriously!!!! For us not to get that floors me. Its going to take us quite awhile to even get close to their level....And a lot of us act like this is going to happen overnight. Su has raised the bar to a level that IMHO is unattainable at UND... People on here think they are going to be bad next year..what planet do you people live on??? They have been getting the best recruits for the past three years in the area....plus they have a ton of very good players coming back.... Plus a great coaching staff....I think they will be OK..lol we have a long, long way to go...am I excited for the new staff? Absolutely!!!! but lets keep things in perspective..

Congrats to coach. Just heard about this...Looking at the list of Canidates you wonder why his name was on this list? Usually OC move up to HC positions at the same level....to drop down seems awful strange to me. Especially looking at the list of canidates. Anyone else think this is strange??

You are correct. That said we did beat UNI with less scholarships and SU beat Montana when they were still Div II. Would we have been at a disadvantage? Sure, but mostly with depth as the skill would have been very similar. I personally wish we would have kept playing the game. It was a lot of hurt feelings by our coaches and adm. In the end we were wrong and they were right...Trust me I hate to say that.....but it's the truth..

Simply not true...if my memory serves me correctly GT offered Faison to play every other year home/away and we turned it down..

Exactly!!! I don't mind getting beat...but I'm tired of getting our asses kicked!! This isnt' the first time in the Mussman lead teams we have been embarrassed. What happened to our physical Defense!!! A good running game and a good defense and your in EVERY game. This vertical passing game is NOT UND football!! Sure we have had some success against mediocore to crappy teams. When are we actually going to beat a good football team. That's what I'm waiting for.. My fear is this was just the begining of the ass kickings this year. And if I'm right where does that leave this football program....

Nothing's changed on this board. We accept mediocrity. Why should we? Why aren't we holding the coach and the administration to higher standards. The game last night was an embarrassment. EWU is a decent team. But not a team that should mop the red carpet with our asses. I was listening to the radio and jack says we have so many good backs we had to leave Sparks in Grand Forks. Good backs?? What god damn team is he watching? Good against !@#!$ competition. Christ Icould have run for 200 yards against some of these horseshit teams. Our WR are good. But not as good as we think. I was reading how some of you think Harden is the best in FCS. He's good but let's put the Kelly green cool aid down. He drops bass and takes plays off. Not would I would call the best. The online is avg at best. Don't even get me started on the defense. Seriously. That doesn't even deserve my rant. Yet we have people on this board saying well we shouldn't expect much out of this team. My question is why the hell not!!! I wil tell you this. If SU lost a game like this the town of Fargo would shut down. Maybe we should start giving a !@#$ about the football team. If we don't expect excellence who will?

You are forgetting one thing. The family of the recruit. Playing teams in the Midwest allows families to drive to the games. Flying to every away game is very expensive. I would call this a disadvantage.

Star, keep up the good fight. Thank god for people like you on this board that can see the big picture and what is actually going on. Kelley is a joke and should be removed immediately for the way he has handled this whole situation.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! Great post!!!!!!!!!

Man, there are a lot of spineless jellyfish on this board all of a sudden. Thank god for Coach's/leaders like Hak!! Amazing how everyone was so happy about the legislation and because of a threat by the BSC we turn tail and run I for one want to always be the Fighting Sioux!!!

6-5 successful? Why do we have such low standards around here. 6-5 with four cupcakes would be a joke. that means we went 2-5 against the rest of the schedule. If that's successful then I guess I'm clueless.

the main question for me is can we score more than 50 points in a game. How about 70? 80? Watching this offense under Jones is like watching paint dry. It's as boring as hell. I am the only one that is sick and tired of this crap? How long to we give this clown?

UnD-59 Bison-72 will anyone back me that we need to get rid of Jones!!! I am so tired of this boring offense!!! The ONLY reason we keep this somewhat close is we will take every second off the shot clock and limit their possessions. If any of you have not seen the great Jones Offense get ready sat. night.

Totally agree.....sorry but we need a change in football and mens' B-ball. I thought Faison was the man for the job, but if he can't see this then I have to question him as well.

UND-17 NIU-27 Hope I'm wrong but without a competent QB don't see how we can win this game. Sorry!

Ole, I agree with what your saying. Most on here don't want to admit that so far we have had a very poor transition in all sports. Especially a guy with 'HOMER" as his name. Recruiting in B.Ball and football is almost impossible compared to who we are going against. What can we sell to the players that NDSU and SDSU or UNI doesn't have in spades. Absolutely nothing!! That's just reality. So we are left with leftovers and recruiting in places far from home. We thought it's bad now. Try recruiting when everyone knows Poly and Davis are gone and we have no one else to play. Homer, I commend your optimism however misguided it might be.

Lots of tall guards! To me this is a critical season. Need some upsets of bigger programs and a .500+ season to maintain interest.

Several solid players? You must be watching a different team than I did the past few years. Why people want to continue to give this guy the benefit of the doubt I will never understand

Your kidding right? More time, what more do we need to see in this clown? Sorry but when you make comments about the players can't shoot or pass Jones is the guy who is recruiting these kids with no talent. Why do we continue to say give this guy more time. In my opinon we've seen enough and to keep making excuses for this guy really pisses me off. Until he is gone my four season tickets will not be renewed..This will be my last post on this guy because I have absolutely nothing positive to say about him.

You've said some stupid things on this board. But this has to top the list. SBoHE has EVERYTHING to do with this. It's called oversight. They have failed the people of North Dakota bigtime. This has nothing to do with the nickname. Only you could imagine that in your small brain.

Great post! Really looking forward to this one because I miss the rivalary and I won't have to travel far!! Anyone know if this is finalized or not??

Dan...we would own you in every sport that matters except mens basketball...And it's not like your exactly burning up the hardwood this season are you. Who knows..maybe we would beat you in a home and home..But would own you in Womens BB and Football. Not even debatable