redwing77

It's nice to see UND playing this way on Saturday. Usually they play this way on Fridays... at least this season IMO.

Anderson made a cross checking motion to Hakstol.... reading in between the signs, I'd say Zajac cross checked a guy after the whistle.

Malone did it last night and Zajac tonight. Just skate away. Who cares what they say or do after the whistle.

Malone early candidate for idiot play of the night.

Oshie with 1g 1a in loss tonight.

But he's not starting arguments... he's "just sayin'"

So why pick arguments with fans of the other team? Funny... there are many who root for other teams that come to this site and act respectful.... though we've yet to have any UW fans (unless you count Chuck Schwartz). Why is that? Kay. I'm done now. I'll take badger1 off of ignore when he starts acting respectful on a UND site. He can throw dirt at me all he wants when I go to the UW fan board and start throwing stones.... do they even have a fan board? Even if they do, why would I want to go there? ------------------------------------------- Anyways, I hope UND comes out firing and makes the game a little better. I really feel that Eidsness' performance was an aberration tonight, but seeing how well Dell is playing, the 3rd could mean the difference between a start tomorrow or Eids back in net.

Roller coaster 2d period but it was better than the 1st. Still down a goal. But we're down a man. Please badger1, when didi you change to a turtle? When people start beating you at your own game? Don't come onto a UND site with your sense of moral superiority complex set on high. You're not going to win and it only paints your fan base poorly (and yeah, I can say that since you paint our fan base with a similarly general brush).

What an incredibly stupid move by Hextall.

VV turns an EFF up into an assist!

Well.... weak ass goal... weak ass game so far. Maybe we can right the ship. Either way we'll come back fighting Saturday.

Keep it simple second period time. Shoot the puck at the net and rush the net looking for a rebound. We can't do the cycle dippsydoodle nothing. Just grind it out and pepper the net.

Ok, it went from hard to VERY VERY hard to come back from. I know there is a lot of time, but UW excels at D. Watch for the trap the rest of the game and we'll have to fight tooth and nail.

VV did a little dipsydoodle and discovered that instead of doodling he should have shot the puck.

Anderson and Friesma as officials. Anyone's guess if Interference will be called as a penalty. BigGreyAnt- I've heard it sung slower. I've also heard it sung like an American Idol audition. It could've been MUCH worse.

DATE This note is to inform you all that standing up should only be performed in the act of getting out of your seat to leave the arena. Otherwise, sitting down is the only acceptable posture while puck is in play. Thank you. Is that about right?

That's irrelevant! The NCAA was acting in the best interests of the downtrodden and unheard masses of a minority subgroup that have been so wrongly treated by an image on a television screen, article of clothing, merchandise, office materials such as pens and paper, and facades of buildings. You are a racist buffoon if you think that there is anything but the golden desires of a wounded heart behind the ending of the nickname! Remember, Neuerberg stated that our students hearts and dreams rest upon the retirement of the nickname! (Have you vomited yet?) I wonder when Penn & Teller's Bullsh*t will visit North Dakota over this?

Good for the Vet but bad for the HOA. Actually, there really wasn't a good outcome for the HOA to begin with. They backed down, which means that their HOA Contract is weakened to the point where there is a possibility that parts of it can be summarily ignored if conditions occur (like finding a good enough excuse). If they hadn't broken down, they'd've faced a horrific maelstrom that would have resulted in a terrible PR run that would ruin the association anyhow. The best course of action would have been to talk to the guy with the pretense of taking action in conjunction to what the man has to say. If they didn't want the flagpole there, fine. But find a place nearby that they would allow the flagpole and access to it for him so that he could do it there. Does the community have a Clubhouse? Why not place the flagpole there and ask him to do the honors of raising the flag every morning and lowering it every evening? Holy Cow.... he'd get his wish AND the HOA looks patriotic in doing so. Can you find a more win/win situation? Well, hindsight is 20/20. Now the HOA board look like morons and this veteran has them by the cahones. Lucky for the Board, this guy doesn't look like the type that would take advantage of it. I think the HOA would be wise to revisit their contract and alter drastically or do away with entirely the "Aesthetic" clause.

It was my understanding that he could rejoin the team after Christmas break but he would not be eligible to play in a game until next season.

Though I like the EN goal, I'm really not too concerned if they don't happen provided: 1. We don't get scored upon during that time period 2. We don't pull a Patrick Stefan

We're arguing the same point. My point is that the NCAA doesn't usually interfere with the game by game administration of a league unless its hand is forced. These points of emphasis aren't there to promote the NCAA. They are there to fill in the inadequacies of the conferences under its care. Time and time again, Officials and Administrators of the individual conferences fail to enforce the rulebook in an adequate manner in various areas. The NCAA isn't the only entity that has had the problem (See the NHL and the transition from "The Old" to "The New"), but DI hockey seems to be the only aspect of the NCAA that has the number of problems that are major to the game. Sure, every year college football puts some emphasis on this or that, but they aren't major big deals in many cases (horse-collar tackles and helmet-to-helmet shots to the QB aside). We are always announcing points of emphasis on BASIC rules. And they always result in taking the discretion of the ref OUT of the equation. When enough of that is occuring one has to ask the question "Is there a way to invent a robot to officiate?" After all, if you can't trust the PEOPLE, then replace them. Kindof extreme, but if you don't have the personnel and administration is too blind to see it as a problem and too unwilling to deal with their shortcomings as well, it's kindof becoming the only answer since the NCAA can't come in and fire people...though with their pro-active ways (see Nickname) maybe that's on the way too. I agree completely that it starts at the top and works its way down. I'll use the same old tired analogy again. Jon Campion and even Zelkin, when they first started officiating in this league, were GOOD officials. They called real penalties and weren't ever the center of attention. They were fair and even. They blew a few here and there but not too badly that it brought bias into the equation. For Zelkin, I don't recall, but shortly after Campion joined and peaking at his injury at the Ralph, Campion's work changed. It went down until it matched the other incompetents wearing black and white. The WCHA only took three actions after the Bina tragedy: 1. They changed the penalty after the game to be a CFB Major and a DQ. The Major was all semantics because Paukovich played all but 2 minutes of the remainder of the game. DU was the entity that made it into an extra game, not the WCHA or NCAA. 2. They hired Greg Shepherd full time.* 3. The suspended Don Adam for 1 month (the first month of the following season). Assuming that he would be working every weekend in that month, that equates to 8 games. I do not recall the verbage of the suspension so I cannot say whether or not there was a withholding of pay. Remember: Don Adam once worked for Hockey East for a time and they either fired him or did not ask him back. That, in itself, tells me that there was some sort of accountability standards in place in the HEA for officials that didn't care about seniority... a valuable system to have. An official can suck at his job for 1 year or 50 years... any way you cut it, he still sucks. * - This is the most baffling of the reactions. Under this guy's watch, the most heinous injury in DI hockey in recent history occurs, they take very little action, and he's given a full time job out of it. Doesn't that seem rather odd? Let's go back to April/May 2005 and make Robbie Bina an NHL player, Don Adam an NHL official (I know, but dream it up anyways), and have the NHL Director of Officiating being held part time by Greg Shepherd (actually, I can't find a record of the NHL Director of Officiating from July 2004 to August 2005). Do you think Colin Campbell would stimply sit there, shrug, and say "Well, I think the reason why this happened was because we don't have a full time Director. So, I'll let the guy this came through take the reins full time." Honestly? NOT A CHANCE. Greg's ass would be fired instead of hired. Don never would have been suspended unless the term "indefinitely" appeared after that word. As for the last statement: I meant to say, with this state of officiating, why would a top tier player like Oshie, Toews, etc. want to come to DI hockey? They're much better protected in the WHL. This is what Kelly has to deal with. However, I don't know what he can do to help prospects overlook this level of big picture corruption.

Uh when the NCAA makes a rule emphasis directly related to Bina and Don Adam (The CFB rule) that forces officials' hands.... I think that pretty much says it all. Right now, this sort of thing makes players like Toews, Kessel, Vanek, Oshie, etc. much more appealing and fun to watch at the DI level because, and I cannot believe the CHL fans that troll around haven't said this yet but, at the CHL level, cheap shots are handled immediately and are followed through according to the severity of the act. Yeah, the cheap shots that have occured in the CHL over the past few years have been jaw dropping (not in quantity, but in quality if you will) but two things happen right away: 1. The team that got hit can stand up to the other team and 2. The league doesn't care about records when it comes to punishment. They don't see themselves as any better or worse for having dealt out a suspension longer than 2 games. I can't vouch for the competence of CHL refs. I've never watched them at a game. But I just can't believe that they don't face as lackluster accountability standards as WCHA officials. Right now, I'm starting to think that there is a dichotomy in DI hockey. The best league and the best division. Here's the difference: Division - The best division is the best grouping of teams top to bottom on average in a subjective, overall nature. League - The best league is the best run division from an administrative standpoint including officiating, policy, operations, marketing and publicity, etc. Right now, I maintain that the WCHA is the best Division in DI hockey. I think the HEA has the best league in DI.

I'm not. I'm simply pointing to the hits that have other teams calling us scoundrels and all. To many, it doesn't matter whether it is legal or not. A UND player injured their player and that's all there is to it. We're not saints either. I'm sure if Genoway had gotten injured in a legal hit there would still be some posters here calling out Marvin regardless. It has to do with the perception rather than reality in many cases.

Remember Mitch Vig's incident too.... Finley's hit on Jack Skille... Though I'm not sure Skille's was season ending. i don't remember. I hate the injuries, but my beef isn't necessarily about that. Injuries occur in contact sports. Everyone knows that. My beef is that, essentially, there is no consistency on whether or not those hits that are illegal are actually called as such.

Quality officiating and administration therein... no wait... there had to be some in the first place for us to notice it missing...