stoneySIOUX

Our players don't work hard? I'm just gonna stop this now as I don't think we'll agree. It's fine. All good.

Sure, but I also think they add players thoughtfully. I remember a portal transfer a few years back that ended up being a big time helper, but apparently his visit to Grand Forks nearly prevented him from coming as the players didn't like him. I haven't heard that from any portal goalie the past several years. The staff and team felt like they'd properly fit the "culture". BTW, every team talks about their culture. Why are some so obsessed with that?

My favorite.... "Is the game on TV?" YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' COMPUTER IN YOUR HAND!!!!

That group is a cesspool.

Can't argue with that. I just don't think it's a massive problem to bring in a quality veteran.

You guys are mean. She's a nice lady! 😁

I'm saying that we prioritizing other positions because of the portal offering goalie options.

HA! Got em. We did win. Just not a full PWR point. Both are facts lol.

Fair point.

Lol I'm good, man. It's not a smart bet this season, unfortunately.

Can't argue that. I again will lean on the idea that the portal allows a bit of a crutch.

Well put, all around.

I would say this is likely the case. Hard to say it's on the coach or the player, but I for one never thought Helly should be the guy. I still think Hobie can get there, but he wasn't ready this year. And with the crutch that is the portal, we can go find a good tendy if we're uneasy about the current one.

Would you have made this bet at the beginning of the year? I won't take that bet simply because of the hole we've dug, unfortunately. I love the direction right now, but we have too many injuries to too many very good players for me to bet on it. I am still confident we can get there, but health will and absolutely does matter.

I had this conversation with someone previously away from here and I understand the frustration of not having "our guy", but I don't truly understand why this matters. We recruit the portal goalies to come here.

It's not a continual habit! Goodness, that's what I'm saying. With one outlier, the Canisius weekend, UND has beaten teams they should overwhelmingly more than they have not. When UND doesn't make the tournament, it's a full down season. Including conference play. You are right, agree to disagree.

We won the dang games. I'm sorry, how can we judge accurately if choose feelings over facts? I disagree that the exhibitions set the tone for the whole year. They mean nothing other than getting legs hot. If this does happen, I am confident we'd get back to where we'd need to be, but I also just feel like he doesn't deserve to get fired.

I'd argue our 18-17-2 record kept us out that year LOL. Pretty sure it was the now infamous Canisius weekend that truly was the nail in the coffin.

Because it's an exhibition. It doesn't matter.

RMU. They swept RMU. Auggie was an exhibition. So were the US Under 18 games.

Uh, no. UND is 62-26-14 in non-con under Berry. I can go season by season, if you'd like. Some are certainly better than others, but he's had one true under .500 non-con team. No. See above.

Three of those are exhibitions and one of those is a win. Bubs has over 200 wins. C'mon.

Again, come with reasonable facts other than "regularly beat by far inferior programs" or that our teams are being "outcoached". UND is 206-104-33 overall under Bubs. What do Blais and Hak have to do with it? Poor regular season records? It's insane to think we get regularly beat by far inferior programs. Has it happened? Yes. Has it cost us tournament bids? One time, specifically yes. Is it a regular occurrence? Not even close. Dude, I am being civil. Don't bring nonsense in here like I'm a burner account. Come with real things to discuss. It's ok to have a different opinion, but saying things that have no merit brings nothing to the table.

Like I said before, I just want some legit, well-thought out discussion of concepts like "lack of being prepared" or "poor game strategy". I certainly can admit that I've seen UND come out flat many times and perform that way. I've also seen the opposite more often than the latter. Kids come out and play like garbage because of many reasons. I'll never believe Bubs doesn't have his boys ready to play. UND doesn't recruit players that lack will or want. Lack of preparation makes no sense to me. Are any of us actually believing UND isn't preparing?

Lucia was also being publicly criticized by NHL GMs during the end of his tenure. Bubs' current situation is absolutely nothing like this.