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I still feel very strongly that this kind of sentiment would have been significantly less prevalent had the process not brought a new nickname that is generic and bland. The logo is not unique, not wholly UND or North Dakota and is boring. Had something come along that everyone could get behind, the transition would have been much easier, IMO.

Lol let's be clear, here. You're still in the super-minority on this issue, my friend. People don't seem to be even close to the second option, IMO.

Anyone think it sucks it only for current students? I do.

If this happens, I only miss JBD

I think social media is ONLY for dumb comments

That's exactly why they didn't release it. They'd be mocked mercilessly and I doubt they want that.

Sure seems non inclusive, if you ask me

All he's saying is that it's unfortunate. Not rehashing an argument. Simply saying he wishes it would have been considered.

You and I disagreed earlier, but I promise I'm not just trying to be contrarian when I say I couldn't agree less with this lol. But again, I frickin' hate mascots haha.

I think it would be a big deal if the admin portrayed it as a student-driven initiative if it were not, but yeah, I completely agree it's honestly not a big deal. I just frickin' hate mascots hahaha

I truly hope this was a groundswell from the students, but I definitely don't think this is the whole story. My guess... a group from the admin reached out to Student Gov to say they wanted to do this and asked if they thought this was a good idea. Then, Student Gov ran with it. They can let StuGov run it and look like the good guys, too. Again, just me spit balling, but it seems weird to think this was all started by the student population.

Thanks. I know the story. I was joking.

Haha... you can believe that, I understand. I definitely think this is being driven by the administration, however. You have more proof than I, but it seems pretty logical to me.

Lol I personally don't believe this is driven by the students. Either way, I get why they are having one.

He's just wanting people to stop fighting about how people choose to move on from a nickname. That's it.

She probably died feeling pretty good about her choice in nickname.

Because I've seen zero to suggest that this "debate" is stopping students from attending our University. Is it a positive? No. But this BS debate is not stopping people from coming to UND and that includes non-athletes. It's just not. Let's try a roleplay here... 17 year old D-1 hockey recruit: "Hmmmm... UND has a really good tradition of putting hockey players into the NHL, but I really don't like that the nickname debate is still ongoing." *Insert basketball, football, any sport or any non-athlete for any said benefit...* Long term, yes, I can absolutely understand the idea of donations being withheld potentially being a problem, but a 6-year trend is waaaay to small to decide if that's the case.

AGAIN.... this is NOT helping the cause to tell people how they should and shouldn't feel or "grieve" this name change. As well-intentioned as I'm assuming this is, this whole thing is you telling adults how they need to think about something. Not gonna work and in fact, probably inflames the argument.

I think students and student athletes could not care less whatsoever about this debate. Do you honestly believe a football, hockey, or basketball.... hell ANY recruit wouldn't come her because people debate about this on social media?? GTFO. I want proof of one situation that this has happened. Just one. And btw, they aren't dumping on the University. They are dumping on the nickname they don't like, so unless you have proof this is hurting the University, it's a nonsensical, strawman argument.

Like I said to the other crowd... name calling and all this nonsense isn't helping your cause, either.

You're becoming my favorite person on this board, my friend

Again, yeah, this'll help...

Any fanbase would be upset for a long time if they had to change their name. Add a tradition as strong as ours, a process that was flubbed, removing for a reason that many think is ridiculous and unfair, a generic logo and nickname and you have a fanbase who will take longer than most to move on. But no... this side has to just "GET OVER IT" because the other side says so.

How is this negatively affecting the University? I'd love to hear an example of this. Social media is FILLED with nonsense. Are players not coming to UND because fans argue about the nickname? No. Are donors still donating? Yes. Sure, this could change long term is this isn't eventually stopped, but at this moment, I fail to see how the University is affected by our whining and moaning on social media and message boards. You don't like it, so you see the University is being painted negatively. The Sioux Forever crowd is holding onto the name and see it as a badge of honor to fight for. Maybe, we all just relax and let the whole thing play its course. What affect is it to you personally other than you finding it annoying?