stoneySIOUX

Indeed this is sad.

A mothafawking supporter from waaaay back.

Hahaha for many it's apparently more than a 6 year process! For others, it seems to be quicker. I'm happy that you've moved on.

And there it is, again... your group telling other how to feel. You get it yet?

Seats are still full (attendance may be dropping, but it's dropping in all sports in all of the NCAA -- not connect to this debate in any provable fashion), recruits are still coming, enrollments are still happening.... I. DO. NOT. UNDERSTAND. THE. PROBLEM. Sioux Forever people are still buying tickets. Still supporting UND, still buying North Dakota branded gear.

We've been through this so many times... Contentious battle with the NCAA where Sioux fans were tossed back and forth thinking we had won and ultimately lost, awful process of picking a new name, generic final pick when the criteria stated the need for uniqueness, boring logo. Am I missing any? That's why. Our process seems to have been different than most schools who have gone through the same thing. Most didn't fight the NCAA. EDIT: Sorry, I honestly didn't mean that first sentence to be so prickish sounding haha.

Ok, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. I don't disagree with what you're saying, by the way. I just do not believe constantly telling people they are wrong or that they should "hurry up and get over it" is going to help their transition to accepting it. It's just not going to do it. You do your thing and let them figure it out. That time will come.

And this matters why? Both recruits are coming to UND, right?

For the sake of your health, you should not continue to subject yourself to this nonsense of a name and just move on! I want you to feel good about yourself, John!

And this is why this debate continues.... keep telling someone how they should respond to any situation like this and you're going to continue to get blow back, over and over and over. Want to solve this problem? Just wear your FH clothes/hat/etc. and stop pointing fingers. You're going to get what you want, but your expectation is on YOUR timeline and that's just not going to happen.

This is all fine. Honestly, I won't even argue against it. I just don't really care what other fanbases think about us... ESPECIALLY coming from our biggest rivals. They never liked us and this doesn't change that. Our STERLING reputation has so clearly been sullied by this dastardly debate I don't buy for once second that it's giving us a bad name to the people its most relevant to -- recruits and people that are coming to UND to go to school. They are coming here regardless of this silly little debate.

I get this. I definitely do. I just don't think the "division" between our fan base stops us from uniting in cheering for UND against these kinds of foes.

What resources are being wasted by the University to stop "Sioux Forever"? "Serves the University of North Dakota".... ok lol. THIS is a big part of why "Sioux Forever" still exists. It comes off as so pretentious. Again.... none of this will stop until BOTH SIDE stop complaining about the other.

Why constantly complain that the "Sioux Forever" crowd is complaining?

I would NOT be upset

Nothing, they are just dumb lol. I'll ignore it, but if that silly thing gets in my eye line during a play, his head will be removed haha.

I find this so funny. Is it just a general lack of wanting to find the information? Are people just stuck on their talking points and that's all they need? There are so many people who argue about things that they have ZERO knowledge about. Insanity!

D'okay

Never said I intended to fix the problem. Just a simple observation, buddy.

Ok, so you were diverging from the original point by Darrell, which I disagreed with... ok then. Moving on, I suppose.

Hahaha beat me to it. People going to be SO mad

Do you honestly believe that there's a close number of people who have fully embraced FH over the old nickname? Or are you grasping for the argument that "the number is growing"?

But, but, but... the University is going to get hurt by this!!

"Much more" is still incredibly low. Most UND football, basketball, etc., fans are also UND hockey fans.

I agree with this. It is, what it is, I guess.