TheFlop
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21 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
Tired of all this winning yet? #TrumpDepression
I suppose it is alot to ask of a certain segment to objectively look at the Covid situation when they are still butt hurt about an election that occurred 3.5 years ago.
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34 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
6 deaths in one day is encouraging?
I thought there were none today?
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2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
49 new positives in ND on 2235 test today. No new deaths.
But if only there had been more tests......I'm sure that number would have been tenfold.......
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1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:
49 new positives in ND on 2235 test today. No new deaths.
Condolences go out to Rednek and a few others. This news isn't going to help the narrative.
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
Having an underlying health condition never was an instant death sentence until Covid19. Keep in mind this isn't just smoking grandma. 40% of the US population has a chronic disease according to the National Health Council.
Wrong. Having an underlying condition is not an automatic death sentence, it only increases your risk. And out of those 40% of Americans that have chronic conditions....how many of them are a condition that actually makes them more at risk as it pertains to Covid? All 40% isn't heart disease.
As for obesity....the morbidly obese person never wore a mask to save themselves from eating too much food but now healthy people should wear masks to save them?
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22 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
If someone knew they had been exposed and chose to come to work among vulnerable adults - probably should be some consequences. Based on the nursing home environment it would seem unlikely that he will be the only who gets infected.
The situation as you laid out is clearer than most......husband at LM gets Covid.....wife at home gets close exposure....she comes to nursing home and passes it along. Easy enough, she should have stayed home if possible. What if instead of getting it from her husband....the lady went through the Taco Bell drive thru and found out a week later that two people were diagnosed with Covid. Should she still stay at home? I can guarantee you I've been in Walmart or Hugo's at the same time people with Covid have been there......do I need to stay home for 2 weeks after every visit? Should somethong happen to me if I pass it along not knowing that I had it? How about lesser ailments? If I pass a cold to a coworker that causes that person to miss two days of work can they file a lawsuit against me?
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9 minutes ago, Old Fella said:
And uou know this because---?
Try to keep up.
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8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Taco Bell needs to understand their COVID workers aren't the reason people who frequent get sick!
Luckily it was the Grand Forks Taco Bell. Since they only push about 3-4 cars an hour through the drive thru contact tracing should go quickly.
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7 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
This isn't directed at you but it just reminded me of something I've seen a ton of on social media that makes me chuckle:
People rail on the experts (CDC/WHO/etc) and their models for being inaccurate but then in their next breath, turn around a cite something like this. Just further proves that people only believe experts when it is convenient for their confirmation bias.The CDC/WHO models said millions "could" die if steps weren't taken. This study says that suicides "could" increase 32% in Michigan due to the handling of CoVid19. Both are possible outcomes given the data input into a model, which improve with time and more information available.
Agreed....my point is that the only models/predictions that have been used are those that support the argument of closing down the economy. There has been literally next to no effort to look at the overall picture and take into account all positives and negatives which would benefit the US as opposed to the manufactured hysteria currently overtaking the country.
Even the naysayers will acknowledge that Covid-19 deserves attention and a certain level of safeguards (mostly for elderly and people in high density areas). However the same can't be said for those that have gone all in on Covid-19. With that crowd it is stay inside for the next year, all business should stop, and the government should just keep printing and handing out $2000 a month to everyone indefinitely. There is no compromise with that segment.
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A study projects suicides to increase 32 percent in Michigan.
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Hey kids.....the good news is you didn't catch Corona which you had a very high probability of being asymptomatic with.......the bad news.....since people are under stay at home orders there is a significantly higher chance that you will get abused and not have it reported. I wonder if kids would choose door number 1 or door number 2 at this point?
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The "just one-lifers" argument is about to get even flimsier as reports like this start putting big picture perspective to how truly damaging the quarantine is/was.
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11 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
Here’s a thought exercise. Let’s say the media never picked up on a “new” virus and it didn’t have a name. And nobody ever invoked the p-word. Instead, they just reported generically on trends, data, and observations about respiratory viruses, illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths in the aggregate.
Would 2020 just have gone down as a “really bad flu season”? I mean, who has even even paid attention every other year in modern history when such things have been announced? Who here hasn’t just shrugged at stories of ‘norovirus on a cruise ship’ or ‘Asian flu’? We’re pretty desensitized and resilient, after all.
Yet, there are now armies of armchair epidemiologists out there who couldn’t begin to tell you how many died last year, or the year before, or in any year from any cause, but who seem to know for a fact that “this one is bad.” Nearly none of them have witnessed it first hand, mind you. Rather it’s what they’ve heard. Over and over.
No panic. No economic upheaval. Some deaths, sure, but mostly in assisted living facilities and tightly packed urban areas. Gentle reminders to wash hands, stay home if you’re sick, see your doctor. Pharma could have quietly worked up a vaccine, and rolled it out in due course with the usual seasonal admonition to ‘get your flu shot.’ Nobody ever reads those labels anyway. “Oh, a bigger needle this year? Okay.” Or, “Two shots this time? Oh, well, what’s my co-pay?”
Maybe we can learn something about the perils of too much information in the Information Age. Maybe being human and vulnerable isn’t really the problem. Maybe putting too much information in the hands of those least equipped to deal with it is the real culprit.
You make a great point....and that's most likely how the next pandemic will go down assuming it's a non-election year.
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19 minutes ago, Old Fella said:
That is wonderful as long as the 1 who gets the virus is not yours.
You can't be serious? Using that logic then I can't send my kid out in the summer (West Nile).....he can't ever swim in fresh water again (blue algae)....he can never go to school from Nov-March (flu)....can never ride in a car (car accidents). Etc. Listen to yourself!
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4 minutes ago, Old Fella said:
Don't like to be repetative but "that is relavent because---"
It's relevant because the chicken littles keep citing testing testing testing.....and percentages.....and mortality rates.....etc. So citing normal daily activities that come with higher risk than Covid-19 is an attempt to put things into perspective for people that have a hard time seeing the big picture.
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7 minutes ago, Old Fella said:
No one asked my opinion but here it is,
I have 0%f fear for me.
I have 100% fear for your children.
Fear for children? Hasn't the data shown that the young have been largely unscathed?
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14 minutes ago, dynato said:
What are your thoughts on immunity passports? Prove you have had the disease and no longer a transmitter, that you are immune to be able enter your workplace. This idea is already circulating in the USA. Fauci already said it is a possibility on national news. I see this as a large threat
I think the idea is great if you want to encourage discrimination and widen the gap that already exists between healthy people and those that are chronically sick.....but that seems to be the direction the people that are obsessed with testing for the sake of testing are headed with this. While we are at it lets shut down the economy again and not let anyone go out until every 300lb person gets tested for heart disease. Think of the lives that would be saved by doing that?
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The UK starting to formulate possible work restrictions for the summer. People over 70, pregnant women, and the severely obese could be required to work from home. Just being tossed around the UK for now but I'd suggest that the just one-lifers on this board start plowing in calories or else they might have to leave their house before football season if the US follows suit.
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1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:
Should I wear a condom with my wife too? I could have Hepatitis? I haven't been tested in a long time...I mean can never be too safe right?
This isn't the holy angel of death people.
A handful on this board don't grasp the concept of magnitude. You can be cautious about a situation without curling into the fetal position and quitting life.
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3 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:
Read the link. CDC method of calculating the flu and Covid are very similar.
Why doesn’t CDC base its seasonal flu mortality estimates only on death certificates that specifically list influenza?
My question would be....and I'm guessing it wouldn't be easy to get a candid answer is as follows. Doctors aren't machines, they are human too. It is human nature to notice something more.....when it is an area of emphasis. Covid-19 by any account is under a microscope right now. Would this same level of attention to a flu season result in higher numbers of deaths being attributed to the flu?
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Just now, dynato said:
Must be nice not knowing how to read. The CDC clearly outlines what the 37K number means in the very first paragraph and outline why it is low in the footnotes. It's not a smoking gun by any means.
No no no, how about you prove to us all that they are not at higher risk. So far, everyone has used the argument of pre-existing conditions without having any understanding of them in order to suggest they should not have to take corona seriously.
So we have to take the advice from medical folks that masks should be worn as gospel but when it comes to the medical folks that say the elderly and those with certain underlying conditions are by far the most affected, we need to discard that advice. Got it.
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3 minutes ago, dynato said:
If you look at the quantities of Americans who have pre-existing and chronic health conditions, you would find they hold the majority. Your logic would dictate they are the ones in charge and should decide what the minority should do. So just keep in mind it is not just some small quantity of people who will be impacted and need to just watch out for others.
https://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resources/infographic/chronic-diseases.htm
C'mon....put a little more effort in than that. Not all chronic underlying conditions put someone at a higher risk.
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5 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
That's great news, let me share it with everyone I know who works in a hospital or long term care setting.
Can you tell me the last time the flu killed 60,000 people in the US in one month?
Can you tell me the last flu season during which so much emphasis was placed on determining whether the person that died with pneumonia......may have also had the flu? Or that the 70 year old person with a history of heart disease.....dies of a heart attack......but it was classified as a flu death because someone he knew had the flu?
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Just now, Redneksioux said:
I'd agree that many could use some training on hygiene and mask wearing skills.
Thankfully this thing is in our rear view mirror eh?
Unless you are elderly, or have pre-existing health conditions, it is.....and for those falling into that category Covid 19 is just one of many situations that they constantly need to be aware of and make their own decisions as to how to balance their personal safety with living life. My elderly parents attend church. During the peak of flu season they don't attend church for a period of time. They don't expect the world to grind to a halt to accommodate them. Not sure why so many have such a hard time grasping the concept.
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Where to eat in Grand Forks.
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Wild Hog was very poorly run. Too many owners, none of which had any restaurant experience, and because it was basically a hobby instead of their primary source of income they never seemed to put any effort into learning.