
TheFlop
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8 minutes ago, dynato said:
To complete the conspiracy theory going around on here: The doctors obviously want the shelter in place to end because the more coronavirus patients they treat, the more money they stand to make from the federal government. Therefore it is in their best interests to convince people to go out and get sick.
Just like it was in the best interest of large health organizations like WHO and CDC to make this virus seem like the potential end to society to justify their existence and to try and gain even more funding going forward. Meanwhile a large chunk of the medical community that actually treat people are taking it in the shorts via furloughs/reduced pay.
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4 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
Maybe the saddest thing of all is that little, old inewz.tv (love him or hate him) consistently scoops both the Herald and WDAY/WDAZ on Grand Forks area news. I don't know if he's a professionally or even a minimally trained journalist, but he definitely cuts the BS and gets facts out quickly. He seems to get reliable information, usually from law enforcement or official government sources. Does that dude ever sleep?
Some people hate him because on slow news days there is a tendency to post a story/mugshot of some decent person that just got popped for something minor like a small amount of marijuana. However, he is willing to post the nastier stories that the Herald / Forum Wdaz/y won't touch because it doesn't fit their agenda. Whether you are black, white, liberal, conservative, old, young...etc ......if you break the law Neil isn't afraid to cover it. Yes a little TMZ like at times but he also exposes the underbelly of Grand Forks and makes you realize how much crap really goes on while you are sleeping.
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1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said:
The employees of the LTC facilities often have kids, or in some cases are high school kids, so yeah, the numbers likely would've been higher. Now what's the result when it's all plugged into the societal cost-benefit formula? Who knows.
And if the LTC employees don't have any high school kids.....they probably have a friend that knows someone that has a high school kid .........
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223 of Minnesotas 286 Covid deaths have been in long term care facilities. Though I'm sure the number of deaths in long term care facilities would have been much higher if all high school activities in the state hadn't been cancelled when they were.
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Just got an email from GF Schools.....apparently some elementary parents complained that 3-4 hours a day....M-F.....with basically 1 math and reading assignment per day was too much.....so cutting back online learning to M-Thur with even fewer Math and Reading assignments. Unbelievable.
Might as well totally shut down instead of keeping up the illusion that any learning is occuring.
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Maybe Shloss could go write for the Athletic.
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Question for the outpatient doctor community (Oxbow and whoever). How often during a routine visit/elective procedure do you find an unexpected condition that requires immediate attention? I.e. something that can be dealt with if it's acted upon soon.....but that can turn into a big deal (including possible death) if delayed more than a couple weeks/months? Or is that a non-factor when determining the negative effects of the lockdown.
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Ironic that the doom and gloomers thought that not enough beds/vents would be what collapsed the medical infrastructure.....in the end it's not the widely alleged late/undereaction that did the harm......it's the financial collapse caused by the overreaction that did it.
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10 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:
Funny thing with distance learning, according to one of my daughters, is the really poor students miraculously got smarter over the past few weeks.....grade wise.
Online learning may work for college, but it has proven to be woefully inadequate for K-12. Middle School teacher friend I spoke to last week indicated about 1/4 of his students haven't done one single thing yet.....but that guidance was to not pressure students for compliance because they already have enough stress on them with Covid/losing their in person school year.
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45 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
If you had kids above 12 years old you probably would.
I agree kids want that......but don't see it happening at least from the few teachers I've spoken to in Gforks.
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2 hours ago, Redneksioux said:
I'm still trying to figure out the LM debacle in Grand Forks. Employees were filing complaints with the city weeks before the closure. The mayor assigned the EDC director to investigate. What does the EDC know about public and worker health? Why was this shrugged off with a single phone call to LM saying all is well.
How is our government at every level completely unprepared for anything thrown at them?
I think the most ridiculous part was the health director Swanson lady saying they don't do inspections or something to that effect. Typical city hall empty suit.
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2 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Whitey Bulger, Ted Bundy, Mafiaman
Not in order of evil of course.
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4 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
I don’t know where you live but that’s not the current statement in North Dakota.
Last I checked I can't go to a restaurant......or bar......or a concert at the Alerus.....and UND hockey didn't get to compete for another title....and several of my friends that are in the cosmotology/hair styling field aren't being allowed to work regardless of how well they safeguard/clean their work area, and I can't watch young athletes that are at little to no risk participate in the class B basketball tournament.....so frankly I don't know where you live because that's the situation here.
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33 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
I'm sorry that the statement "if you are sick stay home" infringes on your rights, but it's the right thing to do.
See that's the problem. That's not the current statement. The current statement is "whether there is a good chance you will come in contact with a virus carrier or not......whether you have any pre-existing conditions that put you at higher risk or not.......whether you as a worker/business owner take proper precautions or not......whether you even have the virus or not.....you MUST stay home."
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21 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Eventually people will realize. Yeah you got a virus? No you do not have the right to share it with others.
While you are making the absolute argument that no one should ever have to pay the price for the bad decisions/bad luck of others.......let's also get rid of welfare/food stamps, the idea of second chances (and 3rd/4th/5th etc chances) for alcoholics and druggies, and also 350lb guys that try to fit into a coach seat on an airplane. Those impact me in the form of finances (increased taxes)....safety......and freedom of movement. The only way to protect everyone from ever getting sick is to stop living life at which point....what's the point?
Maybe if I catch Covid-19 I will just clamor until I can get it to be considered a disability......that seems to work out good for many.
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6 hours ago, dynato said:
60,0000 people dying from flu every year equates to 165 people dying a day (60,000/365=165). COVID in it's current stage has death rate of 3.7% in america, making it 37 times deadlier than the standard flu. What this means is that if COVID spreads with the same intensity as the flu (which we know it does), that there is a potential of (60,000*37) = 2.2 million people dying with no mitigation efforts.
C'mon, you present some good facts but spreading 60,000 flu deaths over the course of 365 days is misleading. A more accurate daily count would be spreading those deaths over the actual flu season (i.e. Dec-March or whatever the official season is).
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36 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Fargo PD reported as many drug ODs in past 2 weeks as they had all year prior. One OD died.....heroine. Not coronavirus.
No but the guy that sold him the heroin knew a guy that knew a guy that heard about someone with 4 underlying conditions that died from coronavirus after having been denied admittance at 3 different hospitals because they were full and out of ventilators. Better put it in the Covid column.
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It seems a little desperate how certain officials are now trying to pump up the number of deaths by estimating how many are happening at home without being reported. For every unreported death that Covid caused at home.......how many people on their hospital deathbed for other other ailments are being classified as Covid because that was the last malady they happened to be diagnosed with?
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5G.....just to stay on topic......someone asked me if I would take the Zith/Malaria drug combination given that a non-medical person has been it's biggest proponent in the media. The short answer was yes as long as my doctor said I was a good candidate. The longer answer would be given the evidence of it's effectiveness that is out there, I would take it even if the cover of the package had a photo of Robert Kelley, Mark Kennedy, Redneksioux, and Pete Haga holding hands together.
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https://nypost.com/2020/04/05/ny-coronavirus-patients-being-treated-with-anti-malarial-drug/
4,000 people in NY being treated with it. Doctor's starting to believe in it?
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Must be having some trouble with the death count not growing as exponentially as some predicted (5G and non 5G related Corona cases of course). https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/coronavirus-death-toll-americans-are-almost-certainly-dying-of-covid-19-but-being-left-out-of-the-official-count/2020/04/05/71d67982-747e-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html
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Amazing how many people are afraid of taking a 360 view of this topic.
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Or maybe the mods could deal more with the 2-3 members that can't debate with logic and instead go on over-emotional rants instead.
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2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)
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Those people are still living their lives and not stuck under a blanket sucking their thumb in the fetal position while sending letters to the Forum.