Herd

It's a tough debate on whether joining a quote "FBS" conference is advantageous. If the FCS level completely loses it's ability to schedule games vs. P5 or G5 teams, then it becomes more of a priority. If you just move to a watered down FBS WAC and play the same teams, is it really worth spending and extra $4 mil for no playoffs and playing the same teams? If the Top level of football expanded to a 12 team playoff with all conferences having an avenue to the playoff, then I'm listening. i.e . . . 4 Top Conf champs, 5 At Large Bids, 3 Play-in games from lower conferences. Just playing a conf championship game doesn't interest me, some playoff is needed. No access, why spend more? Is there a split coming with P5/G5? Why, the P5 is having their cake and eating it too. The G5 gets games vs the P5, but that's about it. The are locked out of the playoffs save a 2nd tier bowl for 1 team. What the draw? FCS move ups are not tying to be Ohio State, so there needs to be an acceptable scholarship level below the 85 top. If FBS splits scholarship at 85 for the top, 70 for the middle, and 50 for low end, Yes, then you move to the 2nd Tier. Not a lot of incentive to move to 85 for an FCS team. If your at 85 and at the top, why? You won't be top 25, you won't have access, you are not Ohio State. (neither is most of the 120 teams in FBS)

Said fulcrum was handed to usd by und. Some would say usd gave you the rope-a-dope. Hope they at least sent you a fruit basket.

You do realize that the MVFC was not looking for teams either when USD joined, right? See, it's called leverage.

Not moving goalposts, just talking about 1990's playoffs and championship records.

Oh really? I remember und planning a summit visit, then canceling.

So, you are going to join the WAC and fbs football, so you can add another 4mil to your budget? Those exit/entry fee will be less than joining fbs, which will require adding women's sports.

They won't add you unless you ask to be added. They won't offer you unless you ask for an offer. That ball is in your court.

Coming from the most pompous and arrogant poster on any board that I have every read, your assertion above is pretty humorous. Your content here would quickly draw a written apology from DB or Rob Port had they penned anything close to it. If that weren't enough, you've even tried to envoke Devine support for your drivel during brief moments of conscious awareness. Port meet kettle, is all I have to say.

If both school were FBS with a 12 game schedule it would be much easier. With an 11 game sch, not so much. Just the way it is.

Brescani provided a narrative to explain the poor decision that was made, and to correct it. It's similar to the narrative that you get from CEO's and HR folks in corporate America on a daily basis, except we don't have access to their email and text messages. Should someone get all the detail on Ports driving record and DUI and publish the detail on his actions? As a university system reporter, he should probably be subject to open records on his worst moments.

The truth is they thought they were putting right policy actions in place, but they were wrong and corrected it within 3 days. No committees, polls or taxpayer dollars affected. What he knew or didn't know should not be if consequence, unless you are on a witch hunt. Thanks God they don't goto the texts for the leaders in corporate America on a daily basis, when poor initial decision are made and corrected. Pretty stupid situation.

There may have been parts of the media policy that he didn't fully understand. Who are we to say. He certainly didn't know what the reaction would be, and fixed it appropriately. Using an open records law to look at text messages is a chicken !@#$ action of a idiot with a ill advised Vandetta. The fact that he went to that level is uglier than anything that Brescani might have done. You can thank God they didnt look at your recent Presidents texts over the years, or the other guy they just forced out for all the conduct with giving raises and taking trips. Where Ports texts on that guy? I guess they just pick and choose the school to sttack. Disgusting chicken !@#$ action.

Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed.

Every P5 league having a network begins to water down these networks and create commoditization. The B1G used to have a special thing, now almost everyone does. At some point these networks will begin to lose their value. Ho-hum, the ACC has a network, another channel I won't pay extra for.

5-7 head to head, und advantage. Obviously you don't want to talk playoff records and championships, not that I blame you.

Actually 90's, ndsu has the better overall % and win totals. u .750 81-27 su .765 88-27

Ndsu won 5 championships in a row while lead stayed at 20 games. Not a stat with any semblance of meaning, other than to yourself. Yes, you had the better squad in the 30's-50's, I'm happy for you.

What school? Wichita State specifically. Wichita State fans have had their noses up in the air for a lot of years about mvfc football. They would avoid mvfc football at all costs, maintaining their perception that mvfc football is beneath them. Getting kicked around in the mvfc (and trust me, they would get kicked around for 5 years at least) would not stroke their egos very well. They'd be playing GaState and UTSA type schedules with lots of naia/dii/diii/low fcs type comp for their first 2-3 years. They might pick a game vs MO State or IN State, but they would not play UNI, IL State of an of the better teams.

What are you waiting for then? If joining today's FBS level provides a boost to self confidence to the alumni and will get them to buy tix, then by all means join up if you can find a conference home. Being a the bottom of today's FBS or being at the top of the FCS is pretty much the same football being played.

Wichita would get their Asses kicked in the Mvfc for a lot of years. Yes, they hate the idea of Mvfc football. As an FBS startup, they could play a weak schedule and avoid the Mvfc. Their basketball would eventually get them in the MW, AAC or CUSA. Und's hockey and basketball profile could get you in the WAC or the NSIC.

Wichita obviously sees itself as nationally relevant in Basketball, and also wants its football to be as nationally relevant as possible. At this point they are nieve enough to think they could be top 25 in FBS football. If Wichita would stoop to the level of WAC sports, it would be for a cup of coffee until they moved to the MW, AAC, or CUSA. Hey if UND wants to be FBS, go for it, anyone can do it.Coastal just did it, anyone can. What are you waiting for? Your hockey profile will be a huge boost . . . Er money drain.

What's the difference whether you move up and are demoted from the top level, or whether you are FCS and not part of top level? Either way you will be able to move to tier II. It doesn't matter if you move up or not, you won't be part of tier I.

In Tier I, a champion has always been crowned, yes. But there is 1 FBS champion, not 2. Sorry, you haven't a clue.

No, SV was talking about Tier II, you know the FBS G5. But I don't remember who won that National Championship.

I'm trying to remember who won the Tier II National Champioship last year, but I can't remember? Tier I was Alabama, and Tier III was NDSU, but I can't remember the Tier II champion. Does anyone remember?