Bison06

Although I understand your point, it's a bit far-fetched to say it is unethical for police to enforce the laws on the books. Changing the law is another conversation altogether, but the police's job is to enforce the laws, they don't get to cherry pick which ones. If they were to cherry pick based on personal beliefs, I would then consider that to be unethical.

You would have to think ease of travel plays a role in where a larger pro day would take place. Unless UND ends up with a wentz type pro prospect that scouts are clamoring to travel to GF to see, probably makes more sense for them to just have it in Fargo.

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Where is clarification needed?

As has been pointed out by others, Santiago wasn't the same player at the beginning of the season compared to the end. Secondly, the offensive line was getting pushed 3-4 yards into the backfield on nearly every play. UND could have had anyone they wanted play running back that day and probably would have had very little success. The further that game gets in the past it seems the more UND fans forget how big of a drubbing took place in the fargodome that day. If I recall the stats correctly I believe that was close to the worst offensive performance ndsu had ever played against.

You're welcome, think I'll stick around for a while. It seems to brighten your day.

What's your point? This is the internet age spoons, It takes literally 2 seconds for me to click to another tab on my internet browser. Not like I have to go out of my way to make my daily internet rounds. Care to elaborate on how Santiago would have impacted the outcome on that day if he had more carries?

I find it interesting that someone who responded to my post 5 minutes after I posted it is questioning my constant monitoring of the board("But it's a UND board and you're an NDSU fan") "Would have been a different game if Santiago got more carries" This quote implies the outcome would have been somehow closer if he had more carries. We'll agree to disagree about Santiago's ability to impact the game that day.

The arrogance of football fans at times never ceases to amaze. People who do this for a living are impressed with Carson, but you haven't seen enough yet? And before you say scouting is an inexact science, they are right a hell of a lot more often than some two-bit arm chair quarterback on a message board.

Thanks, I figured there was someone, but nobody immediately came to mind.

It's hard to separate a player from the success they've had. Would Cam Newton be the likely MVP if his team wasn't 15-1 in the regular season? Impossible question to answer.

That's not exactly how it works. In fact, I believe Carson will be under even more scrutiny in the scouting process due to the "disadvantage" of coming from an FCS school. People will view him with a much more skeptic eye and if after that additional scrutiny he still gets drafted where he is currently projected, it will be that much more impressive to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't looked it up. But has an FCS player ever been drafted in the top 10?

Scouts have specifically mentioned carsons ability to look off safeties. In fact they said it again during the senior bowl on the completion up the seam to the Ohio state TE. As for the rest of your critique, those apply to every player moving into the NFL so I'm not sure how that is a valid discussion point on specifically why he wouldn't be effective in the NFL.

Overrated as to who the really talented players are at the next level? Agreed. Overrated in regards to who GM's and player personnel guys will draft in higher positions? Disagree. The NFL is notorious for latching onto players who look the part and have the athletic measurables to fit the mold. Performing well at both is definitely going to help anyone's draft stock. Agreed on the Vikings, it seems they may finally have a player personnel team and coaches over there who can properly evaluate talent. The last two drafts have impressed the hell out of me.

I'm certainly not asking anyone to be a wentz cheerleader, just don't allow your ndsu hatred to lead you to say ridiculous things like "he will be decimated at the next level", "this is the most overrated QB class in a decade". I realize you didn't specifically say either of those, but you and others aligned yourself with that side of the argument. Both of those things could turn out to be true, but there is literally no evidence to support such a stance.

Many on this board deride bison fans for acting a certain way towards anything UND related. I've even heard directly and indirectly on this board that UND fans are somehow above the fray in regards to these types of discussions. Isn't it interesting that you are eluding to the fact that you aren't objectively assessing wentz, but rather saying "turnabout is fair play". It seems when the shoe is on the other foot it's ok to be specifically bias toward ndsu, but it wasn't ok when ndsu fans were doing it? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

What are Carson's weaknesses that you feel will have him "decimated" at the next level?

6/10 for 50 yards with 2 blatant drops and another miscommunication with a receiver on a 4th down.(only the coaches and players know who botched the assignment). Made an "NFL arm" throw, across the field and showed elusiveness in the pocket. As I watched the game on dvr last night I actually thought he looked better than I expected him to. many disadvantages for Carson in a game like that. 1.It's an all star game, notorious for players not being on the same page. There isn't a position on the field that requires more cohesiveness amongst the team to appear to be playing well yourself. 2. First experience with that level of talent. A learning curve could have been expected even if he ends up being a top 10 pick. 3. Limited reps in the game. Even in a normal game it can take players time to settle into a rhythm. All things considered, IMO Carson had a great game and showed exactly what he needed to show to make millions of dollars in the spring.

Why would NDSU even consider the Sun Belt or vice versa? The closest schools are in Arkansas.

Any NDSU fan who would think NDSU has anything more than a puncher's chance in a game against Alabama is either grossly under-informed or joking.

I couldn't agree more, I believe I have the proper perspective about what FCS is and what it isn't. But some one this board are always so quick to be sure to put things "in perspective", it makes it difficult to not see that as attempting to belittle the subdivision altogether.

Is your goal to downplay NDSU's accomplishments as insignificant in the grand scheme or simply to say FCS football doesn't matter? If it's the latter, I would ask why you are so quick to downplay a subdivision in which UND is hoping to gain notoriety.

Glad you spent the time to make an account for this contribution. It was definitely worth your time. BTW love the name, you can call me the dude, or el duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

What is your point? NDSU has idiots, plenty of them. So do other fan bases, not exactly a revelation. The difference is, you see NDSU fans acting out on the news because it sells papers and gets clicks because people know the NDSU name now. I was at highschool game a few years back where a guy was literally beaten by a group of fans from the other team. No news story. Why?