Bison06

You've missed my point completely as usual darell. Like I said, UND athletes have a pretty good gig in GF.

It does reflect poorly on NDSU, but it shouldn't. Is NDSU supposed to employ resources for former players to keep their lives together after they are no longer with the program?

Don't talk to me about Golden passes Darell. I know A LOT of people who attended and played sports for UND. Let's just say your players don't have it too bad up there in GF and we can leave it at that.

I can't help but laugh at most of your posts darell, they just make no sense sometimes. I agree, they were on the team for the initial offense, but we aren't talking about that right now are we. You and rednek are feigning concern over people skipping out on community service 18 months after they last appeared on NDSU's roster. See the difference(to use your smart aleck comment) Edit: I re-read your post and realized you just said exactly what I've been saying for the past half of an hour in bold. So why are you arguing with me? Why aren't you throwing a holy sh$t fit about our legal system failing, instead of trying to pile this on NDSU's plate?

Thanks for the breakdown, a quick note though. Just because something is in the paper, doesn't make it news. The forum's job is to sell papers, they know an NDSU headline gets them a bump. Nothing more. Nobody cares about this, some guys that are no longer on NDSU's team didn't show up for community service. People don't show up for community service literally every day in ND, we don't hear about it. When they can sell more papers it goes on page one above the fold. We'll have to agree to disagree on this reflecting poorly on the state. Who outside of the forum's readership will even know about it?

So let me be clear here. If NDSU would have sat these kids down for a meaningless game, against a crap team, that Fargo South High School could beat. You guys would have been fine with it? Please, there isn't a punishment on earth that would've satisfied the naysayers and the same will play out for Mr. Beck come this fall. If he isn't kicked off the team and his mugshot posted on every street corner in ND, people on this board will say it wasn't harsh enough.

Darell, it's been almost a year now. You would think you would have other things on your mind.

You would hope that, I agree. I do see a trend and I don't like it. But, this voter fraud thing is old news. The players involved are no longer on the team. What they do now is their responsibility. If Braden Hansen was picked up for (fill in the blank crime), you wouldn't hear peep from me. The only reason this stuff bugs you is because it feels good for you guys to find some flaw in the armor of NDSU football. That's it. It doesn't reflect poorly on the state. It doesn't reflect poorly on UND like some have stated. It is purely a subconscious or conscious need for some of you to bring NDSU down a peg.

So again, NDSU is responsible for the legal system letting these kids off the hook? It was the judge that handed out community service.

I'm going to attempt a bold darell1976 prediction here... I think UND will finish somewhere between 0 and 15 wins this year. Did I do it right Darell?

But, if a former UND player did get in trouble. UND would then be responsible? Of course it bugs me, these kids are idiots for not following through with their punishments. But, I'm not sure how you expect NDSU to take responsibility for the actions of a player that hasn't been on the roster in 18 months.

I love when Darell makes bold predictions.

So UND punishes former players now?

Alright, that was actually a pretty good one. Good for you Darell.

I would say being it's a Thursday night game, it's more about people having to travel than it is what else there is to do.

It will be sold out, whether or not all those people come to the game is another story. Edit: My guess is it will be packed. Raising a banner tends to bring people out.

I have no idea how many people tailgate at NDSU games, I just know it's a lot. I am not saying it's true, because I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if more people tailgated than went to the games. I know of many, many people who tailgate with no plans of going to the game.

I'm sorry, I'm just picturing an inanimate object with a gun to your head while you type on your keyboard.

I think I made it clear why they bring it up, what's your excuse?

Just working off past results Darell. That was UND's average attendance last year. So projecting anything different is just you adding your own opinion into the scenario. Also, you're first home game is against Valpo on a Thursday night. Not exactly a hot ticket. Don't get too worked up man, I meant it as a joke.

I didn't know it was your job to sell papers or bring hits to a website.

8962 X 2=17924 Apparently my math is better than yours and Lakes.

I heard there were going to be more people tailgating at NDSU's opener than will show up to both of your first two home games combined.

Darell, neither UND or NDSU need to play each other at this point in history. My guess is the next NDSU v. UND game will take place in the playoffs. In my mind that would be a great way to begin the series again. I am actually excited that the rivalry will likely re-start that way. Until then...LET. IT. GO. You're talking yourself in circles.

I'm all for moving on as well. But there is a bit of a difference between dropping a game in November or December and dropping the game in February. The timing is what put NDSU is tough spot, not the dropping of the game. As far as the Ferris game goes, I'm definitely not excited about it, but the goal is always to make the playoffs and get the good OOC games in the FD in November and December. Hopefully that works out again for NDSU this year. We'll see.