Bison06

Mcfeely is a self important talking head who will say anything to get people to read his blog. Not a good source of information. Using Grant Olson as an example of a recruiting "miss" shows his ignorance. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying Grant is an absolute stud, and an amazing leader. He may be the best who's ever played at NDSU, . But athletically, he couldn't compete in the Big Ten and that is why he wasn't offered by the Gophers. Knowing how his career turned out at NDSU, I still wouldn't recruit him to play middle linebacker in the Big Ten.

You guys are hilarious. Name one player on NDSU's roster that should be playing in the Big Ten or that Minnesota "missed". Billy Turner maybe. Marcus Williams, was not an academic qualifier. Outside of those two who did Brewster "miss" on? NDSU isn't winning games because they have better players than the other teams. In fact, athletically we are over-matched in a lot of cases. NDSU is winning because the players buy into a system that works and they play together. As proof of this, NDSU hasn't put any more players in the NFL than usual over this run than they did in the past.

NDSU has enjoyed more national media attention than any other FCS school ever this year. NDSU has had a great run, but as I've pointed out, NDSU is also a product of their time. Disagree if you would like to, I'll disagree with you we can go around in circles forever.

It didn't take you pointing that out for me to know they aren't the only FCS team to have their helmet on his show. But as another poster pointed out, he has had the helmet on his show many, many times throughout this year.

He does that for every FCS team, don't get excited.

Why is everyone so hung up on that term? All that is meant by that is they have consciously decided to give NDSU more attention this year, which you are now not disputing. Admittedly, NDSU has a distinct advantage over any other FCS team in history as well and that is the age we live in today. Social media, internet magazines, 24 hour news cycle etc. Networks like ESPN and others are having to branch out a bit to find interesting stories to fill the time. No other FCS school, who has had the success that NDSU has had, has had the opportunity to have that success in this media environment.

Being delusional would require me to hold a belief despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It seems for you to call me delusional, the burden of proof is on you. So if you can show me that any other team in the history of FCS football has received as much media attention nationally in a year as NDSU has this year. I'll allow you to call me delusional.

My point was that no fcs team has ever received as much media attention in a year than ndsu, which I stand by.

As far as the rest of the fcs is concerned, the 6 teams in those games aren't even a part of the subdivision, no playoffs. So technically, yes, they are fcs. Good job.

If you say so. You say Gameday doesn't give NDSU the nod, I say that is the exact point that shows NDSU has received more attention than any other fcs program in history. Not sure how one goes about measuring such things. Given both of us are in positions of bias, I would say we are at an impasse. Enjoy the offseason.

Appalachian state still better known? Agree to disagree. Michigan is a far more stories program than k-state. That win gets more attention because of michigan not app state. As far as being a "media darling" don't make this out to be a straw man, because I'm not biting. I said espn has decided to make NDSU relevant this year, relatively speaking. I completely stand behind that comment.

So, there is another fcs school in the history of fcs football that has gotten as much attention as ndsu has this year?

This may be a shock to you, but you might want to check the numbers on playoff wins for the home team in each of the schools respective indoor stadiums.

Doesn't it get disappointing waiting for NDSU to fall? I see NDSU going .500 next year is going to be the UND rallying cry this offseason. I remember last offseason it was "wait til you go to manhattan and a real football team embarrasses you".

Pay attention to reality, my comment doesn't require elaboration. Ever seen another FCS school have college gameday? ESPN has been throwing out comments about NDSU on sportscenter all fall. Analysts are commenting on NDSU games. Chris Fowler has been commenting publicly all year about NDSU. Scott Van Pelt keeps an NDSU helmet at his desk routinely on his show. ESPN decides who to hype in the sports world and this fall they have decided to make NDSU relevant, relatively of course.

If Montana vs. Montana St. has never garnered this attention or GoSouthern vs. App. I don't see how NDSU vs. UND ever could. ESPN has made NDSU their pet project it seems, in a very limited sense, not the top of FCS. I haven't seen any more attention paid to FCS football lately than usual.

You say these NDSU fans you know love the recognition of winning the big games. I agree, it's fun to see your team's highlights on ESPN. But that further proves NDSU's side of the argument don't you think? How does playing UND bring NDSU national attention?

So a few guys start a chant and you think that means they care?

Anyone ever told you that you're quite adept at setting up false dichotomies? Either I agree with you, or I'm an ignorant, short sided(see sighted) NDSU fan. I'll go with a third option if you'll allow. You have built up the rivalry to mean more than it does to NDSU fans. As you can imagine, I am friends and speak with many, many former and current NDSU players and fans. I'll admit you'll have to take my word on this, but I have never, and I mean not once, heard an NDSU fan even hint at these championships would have meant more with UND on the schedule.

Tainted? Really? This is not meant as a rip at all, but this post is exactly where the two fan bases are different. NDSU due to their more recent success, enjoys a much, much younger fan base in terms of age in general. The fans in the last ten years for the most part couldn't even tell you where UND is, they don't care. It truly isn't hate with these guys, it's indifference. Us older guys, absolutely, we care. But the new people don't. So to them and to the current players to say it is tainted is laughable.

Knowing the schools that were being discussed, the money would have been similar.

You posters who say it is ALL about the money are completely ignoring many interviews that Craig Bohl has done since the decision was made to move along. Did money play a large role? Absolutely, but he had opportunities to move on prior to this year if it was truly all about the money. Why now? If he is some mercenary for hire like some are making him out to be, why not take one of the other jobs that he interviewed for prior to this one.(Don't begin to say he didn't have other opportunities, I know different). The reason he ultimately moved on is EXACTLY what he said in his interviews. He has nothing left to accomplish in Fargo. The fan base in Fargo, as many of you love to point out, has unrealistic expectations(see delusional, your word for it). If he sticks around and we have a few down years, which let's be honest, anything less than a National Championship will be a let down in the next 2-3 years. The fans will call for his head, just as they did in '08-'09. Unrealistic expectations from the fan base, yes, but that's reality. Money played a role, as it does in all of our lives when we make career decisions. I've known many entrepreneurs who have walked away from gold mine, set for life, kids and grandkids set for life businesses to take on a new challenge in life. It happens all the time. Money played a role, no doubt, but the challenge of it all is what drove this decision if you ask me.

Both are strong conferences with a few traditionally powerful programs. To say one is better than the other will be based on nothing more than personal bias if you ask me. The way they may be able to be separated is in style of play. Big sky is a more wide open league, while the Missouri valley could be classified as more of a pro-style team league. Less gimmicky offenses(not a slam, just an observation)

This isn't accurate. Coach Bradley stayed on as DC when Bohl came in. The same position he held from 1996-2005 for NDSU. Edit: Upon further review, it appears he was Co-Defensive Coordinator when Bohl came in at first. With Jimmy Burrow(Yikes)

Not a rip on the big sky at all, but SUU doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs. Their showing today proves it IMO.