Oxbow6

Fighting Sunhawks?

So my question is: What's next and when will "that" happen? To me if there is a vote for any more than 2 options it is going to create an even a bigger mess. Seems "North Dakota" and "Rough Riders" are in the lead heading down the stretch. Vote.....get it over with...and move on!

Stop! This........^^^ all makes way too much sense over what actually transpired.

I'd give you a +10 if I could

Fair enough.........I would give it a 1. I get those on the committee are in a tough spot but there definitely was some personal agendas that were brought to the table and some unreasonable explanations for eliminating or keeping some options....give them a 3. Kelley gets a -2 just because.....he is Kelley and this is how he operates. The "process" itself get a zero because frankly I don't know if any real head way has been made since day 1 in this process thur today. So doing basic math: 3 + -2 + 0 = 1

So about how you thought it would sake out?

Either one of those options are my top 2 right now.

The ENTIRE process.......everyone involved, decisions made....blah, blah, blah. A number.....that's all I wanted.

So I'll ask you again: 1-10 (1 being a trainwreck) where do you rate this ENTIRE process as of this minute? All I want is a number as I'm curious to your stance.........I do not need some pollyanna explaination.

Well said........direct and to the point!

I'm excited to see the clown car with 16 midgets....ummmmmmmm I mean small people....come piling out!

Might as well throw Big Cocks into the mix now as well to appease the GOBC!

Leadership without a backbone..........we have seen that before with him.

So........this whole committee, this whole process to date has been for what? Never seen anything like this before.

Are you being serious? If that happens then this really is a complete circus and will solidify how big of a joke this whole process has been.

Some of my NDSU buddies in Fargo who thought Whiskey Joe was a complete embarrassment and train wreck for NDSU are starting to think he actually wasn't all that bad after watching Kelley operate at UND over the past couple of years!

So what will be the fallout if the public votes goes for RR by a large margin (it seems to be the overwhelming choice of the 5 left) but that pick in turn is rejected by Kelley AFTER this whole debacle with the no nickname situation?

And at the end of the day your last paragraph says it all and is what most people will remember from this process and this committee.

Agree with almost all of your post but this process has been anything but "pretty well-organized". It has lacked a big picture vision, leadership, and an understanding of public opinion...just to state a couple things. For one to describe this process as a sham is being overly kind IMO.

Been waiting for a press release from the GOBC on where this process is at and their thoughts.......

So we'll be down to four shortly then..................

I think this is a very fair assessment. I was always of the opinion that at the end of this process there was zero chance UND wasn't going to have a new nickname and was going to stay just "North Dakota"...and for the record I could have easily lived with being just "North Dakota" although it wasn't my top preference.

My take on the Final 5: Roughriders: My favorite left. IMO makes the most sense based on criteria laid out by the committee Sundogs: The PC crowd's let's light up the White House in rainbow colors option NoDaks: Possibly the "no nickname" crowd's choice now that a nickname will be chosen Fighting Hawks: The ram it down your throat this is how we do it consultant's choice North Stars: If we as UND can't pick our own state's nickname let's steal our neighbors If you look at these maybe the committee did do their job by trying to appease as many people as they could that might have some say in the final vote.

Please look at the criteria again set forth by the committee in how to approach selecting a new nickname.....then look at the 5 options that are left based on the committee's process.....then stop asking yourself "What the ______ has just happened?" because there is no turning back.

If anyone thinks Kelley won't make the benign safe blah pick on his way out...try again. Fighting Hawks is "trending" as you Twitter guys would say......but MM has no clue what that means.