Oxbow6

Evers still in locker room.

Well played!

Well.........can't say I know you well enough to substantiate that!

Same thing

Great matchups. Baylor plays Sparty...another good one.

But...but...but I need the tinfoil hat to receive those "beamed brainwash sessions"! You should know that.

Agree with all of this.

No.....but Art Schlichter is a 2nd cousin. Good thing OSU covered last night otherwise Mrs. Oxbow would have been PO'd.

For the record here would have been my top 4: Bama, FSU, Oregon and.....Baylor. I personally think Baylor is better than OSU.

Do I send my money order to you or MM to get a tinfoil hat?

So Texas (Baylor) or Oklahoma (TCU), who are again both co-champs, get in over OSU? Possibly but not likely. It was stated very early in this P5 tournament talk that WINNING your conference carries a lot of weight. Being a co-champion isn't winning a conference IMO. Until the Big 12 fixes that..............

If Texas and Oklahoma were swapped in same scenario with Baylor and TCU last night... nothing changes.

Baylor's non-conference schedule sucked too. Easily worst of top 5.

FYP

P5...the 5 in that stands for five conferences. 4 of those conferences actually had a determined champion on the field. One did not due to it's co-champ BS and lack of title game. Actually not surprised TCU fell behind Baylor due to head to head. MM = King of Hypotheticals!

#1 Bama #2 Oregon #3 FSU #4 OSU Neither of the co-champs of Big 12 are in. When the Commish of the Big 12 can't declare at definite champ with no title game to determine a true champ, this is what happens. This conclusion wasn't complicated IMO.

Slept in your home yellow jersey again last night I take it. Or did you borrow it to Shawn-O?

Find a better 4th team.....right now? Simple question The Big 12 commish basically was quoted as saying Baylor and TCU are equal heading to the committee. This was a death sentence to both. So by default OSU is #4.

To me 4 teams is fine. IMO OSU leap frogged the Big12 schools last night. OSU in...and done.

The guy you threw under the bus here....spot on!

So....WI? Either AZ schools? Not much left to pick from.

The Big 12 shot itself in the foot by not declaring a "champion". Co-champs will kill the chance of either TCU or Baylor getting in. Baylor beat TCU...but co-champs is warm and fuzzy. Now both will be out.

MI St and MS St

This UND once again seemed to play down to its opponent for long stretches both nights.

This. No way FSU gets left out as only undefeated FBS team. TCU with Baylor's win doesn't win Big 12 outright and neither get in as the Big 12 is penalized for no championship game...which OSU was impressive in. #5 IMO is Baylor then TCU at #6. Bama will roll OSU and FSU will sneak by the Ducks.