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Ratelle should have been a consensus 1st teamer as well.

Fire Jim!

I will say the actual logo we get will look nothing like this..............this is actually pretty cool..............and this is coming from a guy who still vomits in his own mouth a little bit when saying Fighting Hawks.

This argument is why a 6th place in the Big Ten and 14-12 Penn St makes the Big Dance in MBB and 22-4 2nd place in the WCC St. Mary's doesn't. It's bad for MBB and and it's even worse now that the precedent has been set for FCS FB.

Packers needed this game. Big road win. Both teams are 7-3........that's where we are at.

Exactly..........so now every marginal 6-5 team like WIU from here on out will get a look when this precedent should never have occurred to begin with. The NCAA can't stay out of its own way.

Again.........precedent? They only won 6 games.

Really? EIU should be sitting at home too but where is the precedent for WIU getting in?

The only thing that the WIU win over SDSU did was give them a winning record and not a losing record. What proceeded after that win for WIU was nothing more than an early Christmas gift.

The latter is almost a sure thing

#bentover

True statement bit doesn't excuse the fact UND got hosed.

None.........and I mean none of my NDSU friends in Fargo thin WIU should have gotten in over UND.......ZERO!

Bingo.......we have a winner.

Me too

27- 20 UND

Hunting in Badlands. Watched game at cabin on Dish. Good win. Like the makeup of this team. Gardner's line is so tough to play against. Fun to watch. Matt is the #1 until he proves he is not. He isn't Dell or Zane but he is doing his job. 9-8-16 are a special trio.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm............I really don't think any of us had a say in this. It was decided for us.

To answer that with a single one word...............No.

Kelley = Dumpster fire

I slept on it and have come to conclusion that FH still sucks and will suck for years to come but it is what it is. I'm an alum, booster and season ticket holder and will continue to be but that doesn't mean I have to like FH.

Ignorance at its finest...........

Local Fox News TV just did a piece on nickname and the Fr. female student they interviewed said she voted FH because it keep "Fighting" in the name. An adjective...... a F'Hawkin' adjective was her reason!!! And don't think she was the only one to vote like that.

Best summation so far. I'll even throw out the word disgraceful....the new nickname, the entire process and Kelley himself.

For once I don't even know what to say...."I'm speechless! I'm without speech!"