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So I'll ask you again: 1-10 (1 being a trainwreck) where do you rate this ENTIRE process as of this minute? All I want is a number as I'm curious to your stance.........I do not need some pollyanna explaination.

Well said........direct and to the point!

I'm excited to see the clown car with 16 midgets....ummmmmmmm I mean small people....come piling out!

Might as well throw Big Cocks into the mix now as well to appease the GOBC!

Leadership without a backbone..........we have seen that before with him.

So........this whole committee, this whole process to date has been for what? Never seen anything like this before.

Are you being serious? If that happens then this really is a complete circus and will solidify how big of a joke this whole process has been.

Some of my NDSU buddies in Fargo who thought Whiskey Joe was a complete embarrassment and train wreck for NDSU are starting to think he actually wasn't all that bad after watching Kelley operate at UND over the past couple of years!

So what will be the fallout if the public votes goes for RR by a large margin (it seems to be the overwhelming choice of the 5 left) but that pick in turn is rejected by Kelley AFTER this whole debacle with the no nickname situation?

And at the end of the day your last paragraph says it all and is what most people will remember from this process and this committee.

Agree with almost all of your post but this process has been anything but "pretty well-organized". It has lacked a big picture vision, leadership, and an understanding of public opinion...just to state a couple things. For one to describe this process as a sham is being overly kind IMO.

Been waiting for a press release from the GOBC on where this process is at and their thoughts.......

So we'll be down to four shortly then..................

I think this is a very fair assessment. I was always of the opinion that at the end of this process there was zero chance UND wasn't going to have a new nickname and was going to stay just "North Dakota"...and for the record I could have easily lived with being just "North Dakota" although it wasn't my top preference.

My take on the Final 5: Roughriders: My favorite left. IMO makes the most sense based on criteria laid out by the committee Sundogs: The PC crowd's let's light up the White House in rainbow colors option NoDaks: Possibly the "no nickname" crowd's choice now that a nickname will be chosen Fighting Hawks: The ram it down your throat this is how we do it consultant's choice North Stars: If we as UND can't pick our own state's nickname let's steal our neighbors If you look at these maybe the committee did do their job by trying to appease as many people as they could that might have some say in the final vote.

Please look at the criteria again set forth by the committee in how to approach selecting a new nickname.....then look at the 5 options that are left based on the committee's process.....then stop asking yourself "What the ______ has just happened?" because there is no turning back.

If anyone thinks Kelley won't make the benign safe blah pick on his way out...try again. Fighting Hawks is "trending" as you Twitter guys would say......but MM has no clue what that means.

So in your opinion the committee(s) have done how good of a job to date using the 1-10 scale.....1 being worthless.

So 5 names left.......and Kelley has the hammer in hand. Anyone else just soil themselves? And I'd rather get a hot lava enema than have Sundogs, Nodaks or F-n Hawks selected.

No.....just my uneducated guess. 3 gets too complicated and might not result is a 50%+ majority vote for the "winner".

My betting line is that the final 2 will be Fighting Hawks and Sundogs. I don't think the committee will go with a final 3 with either Riders or Stars as one of those would win the popular vote.

As I stated a few pages back..........my info, which is probably as good or as bad as oneone else's, has this shaking out so that Fighting Hawks will be the new nickname....or at a minimum in the final 2.

This process has become tiresome.........is it too late for me to start a "FIRE KELLEY" thread?

With what is left I could deal with North Stars! I hope your info is right and mine is not.

Fix........that's a stretch. Guidance from Twamley Hall.........zero doubt. Consultants were brought in to only to give this committee what consultants do and what Kelley wants......a simple generic non-descript, non offensive name that will be palatable by the masses. My sense from hearing from some that know way more than me on this process is that Fighting Hawks is the leader heading down the stretch with Sundogs being the "let's pray we don't get stuck with that" option as to make Fighting Hawks much more acceptable. It kind of like do you want hot fudge or whip cream with sprinkles on your smoldering pile of ____!