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I am fine with anyone who wants to talk about Sioux sports. But, Johnnyboy looks for opportunities to posts about NDSU way too much - last weekend prefect example - we got a history lesson about NDSU option QBs and how no QB in UND could match them. I hesitate to even bring it up again. I am not interested in NDSU option QBs discussions in threads about UND 2012 football or starting a new travelling trophy. If he wants to start a thread about that he is more than welcome to so and in fact it would be helpful to me so I can ignore it.

The NCAA has a bit of a mess on its hands. I understand that they might not have jurisdiction in this case. But, they have shown a willingness to get involved in some very gray areas ie (flags and nicknames). Now, if they sit back and don't get involved with a child predator who was protected by a school, athletic dept and specifically the football program. It will look like it is protecting one of the premier schools/conference in the country. In my opinion - If SMU got the hammer at 5 years. I think a 10 year hammer for the athletics department and AAU status pulled for the school. This will send a very clear message about the priorities for a University. Again, a school president, AD and football coach all knew about this and they let it continue for over a decade. It was a running joke throughout campus about "Jerry’s Kids" - it was an accepted cultural behavior.

Hanson - he is the key to this season.

I can not wait to see the different types of packages that they come up with both Jameer Jackson and Townson on the field at the same time.

Here is a link to Jeremy Hoeck blog at the P&D that has the coaches’ salaries for USD/SDSU. It looks like UND and USD are very comparable. The only outliner would be Boots but he is also the assistant AD and has been at USD for years. So, it is reasonable to see that Jones is paid less. If, Jones/Brewster and Mussman are successful they will get paid. Little surprised by SDSU - they have definitely increased salaries in the last several years. Football program has slipped the last two years big year at SDSU - the USD game looms very large. A loss to USD could be interesting. USD: Joe Glenn, football, $127,260 Dave Boots, men’s basketball/Asst AD, $122,780 Ryun Williams women’s basketball $96,000 - Amy Williams in the coach now not sure of salary information SDSU: John Stiegelmeier, football, $150,010 Scott Nagy, men’s basketball, $152,000 Aaron Johnston, women’s basketball, $161,358 UND: Mussman, football $114,612 Jones mens basketball $86,334 Gene Roebuck women’s basketball $110,000 - Travis Brewster in the coach now not sure of salary information. NDSU Bohl football $196,668 Saul Phillips basketball $135,000 Carolyn DeHoff women’s basketball $113,400 http://pressdakotan.wordpress.com/ http://legacy.inforum.com/pdfs/0719%20Salaries.pdf

I understand your point and I was simply saying the "target" is Montana which is typically at the top of the Big Sky. I do think that other programs in the Big Sky are setting themselves up to make a run at the top: PSU - new coach, new stadium Poly - new coach, new stadium, autobid conference, more regional games. MSU - new coach, stadium upgrades It will be interesting to see how the Great West teams do in conference this year. Sell - PSU should be a good game and they have been very competitive in the Big Sky the last couple of years. It will be a good measuring stick.

That is why I used the word "target" and not "rival" - UND has to build new rivals in the Big Sky and it will take time.. But, until then the "target" for me is the Griz which typically means the top of the Big Sky. Not disrespect is meant toward other teams in the Big Sky and I am looking forward to games against all Big Sky teams.

Until, they schedule a game - I have moved on to a new target - the Griz. please feel free to continue the debate with the Buffalo fans we don't have enough of those going on..

In the future, please word this type of questions as: Buy or sell UND has a better final ranking/season than Montana within 2 years. They are our new target and it keeps the Fargo riff raff to a minium. thanks

Clordion Kennedy (Antioch, Calif.), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiShZ1ScXzY

He is a video for Will Lewis http://www.hudl.com/...hlights/7450384

The data is from 2010 so it is in the middle of the transition. I would think that you would see a nice increase as part of joining the Big Sky. As I looked at the data I was amazed at how little ticket revenue many programs had.. I am really excited about the Big Sky and today it is in a great position: 1) 4 - programs will be playing in a auto-bid football conference for the first time (Poly, UCD, SUU and UND). I expect all four of the schools to make major jumps. 2) While looking at the data - I noticed that all large ticket revenue schools not only had successful programs but a major rival. If you look at the schools added to the Big Sky it gave existing Big Sky schools potential rivals going forward - Sac/UCD/Poly, SUU/NAU/Weber St. 3) Big Sky is now the number three football conference in the Western US 4) Portland has a new stadium and EWU won a NC. I expect to see those schools making improvements. In general I am bullish on the future of the Big Sky - I can not wait... still waiting for my season tickets.

Actually, I think that I have the data for MV, Summit, MtnWest, Big West and Southland. I used it to create the norm data. But, I only took the time to chart the Big Sky. I guess that I am really looking forward to the Big Sky and I have kind of moved on with the xDSU/UNI/USD group... when I have some time (rainy day) in the near future I can chart the data it doesn't take much to do.. if I recall correctly, general thoughts as I cleaned data: UNI/NDSU/SIU/MSU very comparable - UNI/MSU/SIU slightly basketball heavy and NDSU slightly football heavy.. SDSU healthy but a step behind right at norm with ticket revenue. USD has some major work to do ... but I have a lot of good friends from USD and they are very excited about the future of the program and it sounds like dome upgrades and new arena are being pushed.. The Summit is just wow - Oakland had something like $100,000 in ticket revenue compared to the norm average of around a $1 m (yes, I get the no football side of it - but they have a great program and 100k is it? - I think that is why they want the Horizon so bad - more rivals ie more ticket sales). Overall conference is kind of lopsided... xDSU on one side and everyone else on the other side. IUPUI had something like 30,000/40,000 in tickets sales. MV very balanced and wow Wichita St. I think they have the money to start football..

I was listening to an interview with the Big Sky Commissioner the other day and he talked about how he looked at athletic programs and how many programs are being built on student fees, guarantee games and institutional support (sfgis) which is not sustainable in the long run. I thought that I would look at the Big Sky schools to see what the conference looked like in that context, plus I just wanted to learn a bit more about the Big Sky and what UND was getting itself into… As I looked at the data, I came up with the following chart – thought it would be useful to share with other just learning about the Big Sky. General description of the chart: X axis - % of athletic programs budget from sfgis Y axis - % of athletic budget attributed to football program Bubble Size – revenue from ticket sales – I choose this as an indicator of the following a program may have. General Quadrant descriptions: Top RHS – Football School with a healthy budget Top LHS – Football School dependant on sfgis Lower RHS – non Football dependant with a healthy budget Lower LHS – non Football dependant on sfgis NOTE:I added Idaho and New Mexico St just to see how they would fit in..Montana is impressive I can see why the WAC is talking to them.. Mods sorry if the image is too much.. I can delete it you like

So you are saying the NDSU and SDSU are a package deal versus SDSU and USD?

Buy - Sutton missing multiple games - physical runner who will get dinged up throughout the season. Sell - UND over .500 - I think .500 is about right. Think about the FCS QBs they play against this year. PSU - junior college transfer Collin Ramirez - a highly rated transfer. http://www.oregonliv...ly_establi.html Sacramento St. - Nevada Reno transfer Mason Magleby - he was the backup last year at Nevada - limited playing time. Cal Poly - Broadous - 3 year starter Eastern Washington - Kyle Padron - SMU transfer http://www.dallasnew...-washington.ece Northern Arizona - Gary Crossart - returning starter - 2700 yrds 16 td - 7 int Montana - Johnson - if he plays - very good. Montana St. - DeNarius McGhee Southern Utah - Brad Sorensen - BYU - transfer - 3 year starter Northern Colorado - Seth Lobato - returning starter- transfer from CU - big kid with a strong arm. UND will be playing some talented QBs with a young secondary.

You are correct, I thought that they moved him to a third down out of the backfield role - I spelled Jer Garman wrong also.

He was talking about basketball and the Summit League not sure why you jumped over to football ahhh ButFootball got it.

Sell - the greatest needs are in the secondary and only two scholarship recruits. I like the recruiting class, but four JUCO/FBS transfers were brought in with this class to fill the needs (DL, LB, QB, S). Miller - 1,000 - Sell - Backfield is deep, they are going with a committee this year. Miller, Sutton and Jar all had injuries last year with a lighter schedule. You will see those three plus - Bridges and Sparks this year. Buy or sell - avg attendance over 10,000

Hey what are the viewing options for UND this year: I know of ROOT for Big Sky games (UND has 1 game vs Montana St.), anyone know about the other games (football/b-ball and hockey) are they still FoxSports/Midco for other home games.

Thanks for the update - I really like your coach - he has a lot of energy and it appears that he relates well to his team. I am sure we will hear more from you as the season approaches post anytime. I am not sure what to think of the UND team this year. Football always starts in the trenches and I really like the O-line and def front 7. The defensive secondary is unproven which can be troubling given the reputation of the Sky. Thanks for the warm welcome to the Sky - man I cannot believe we are in this conference. I got my season tickets and I am ready to go... If you head east for the game make sure to stop by the tailgating area. You will receive a warm welcome.

The Vikings game should be fun. I am getting up to speed on the Sky teams. It appears that PSU is starting to rebuild the football program - nice stadium upgrade, plus third largest football budget in the Sky. Great weekly football TV program - it really looks like thing are starting pick up. How do you feel about the QB position PSU lost a great dual threat QB from last years team? Has PSU played well on the road historically? Is the FBS transfer running back the real deal?

as we say in the cities you just got Common'd

Football season ended? - I am always ready for football..