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If you want to compare then it would be look at Dale's last two classes vs. Ed - because USD has a Senior dominated team with only WR Will Powell, a TE and lineman that are not seniors and they are juniors, The Sioux are playing with underclassman at the skill positions and a QB who has played two games and has been in the program for less than a year. I have already stated take a look at the end of the year. Am I happy about the football game yesterday - NO. But, I recognize that Mussman was given the thankless task of taking over a program that was in the middle of transition and having to rebuild a team that was in decline when Dale left. I see some talent on the field right now - Bradley looks better than I thought. This team is going to improve throughout the season. They will be a much better team than they are now. I find the fire Mussman talk frustrating.

Exactly, recruiting in the early stages of Div I was difficult. Look at the first two classes since the transition to DI. These two classes should be driving the current team. Again, I am only looking at skill positions on offense because that is the area that the Sioux are the youngest. 2007 - First Year - Lennon - 27 total recruits Only two starter at the skill positions on offense: FB - Solum - Starter WR - Anderson - Starter Others: QB - Goska RB - Murray - no longer on the team. WR - Carruth WR - Daggett WR - VanZee 2008 - Second Year - Lennon left during recruiting season - only 18 recruits that year. Two starter at the skill positions on offense: TE - Nichols RB - Sutton Others: QB - Hendrickson FB - Magstadt WR - Bamba - no longer on the team. WR - Heimler In the last 3 years they have brought in: Hardin, McGill, Ivery, Townsend, Garmin and Bradley and I expect the classes to get better. I thought last years class was the best that we have seen since the start of DI. Everyone needs to give the team a chance to rebuild and make your judgements at the end of the season.

Patience - very young offense... this group has some potential give them 3 or 4 more games to get into a flow. Hats off to the special teams today.. just wow - punt return TD, KO returns (great field position), nice coverage. only the punting game was lacking too many touchbacks when they could have pinned them down deep. Defense played fine in the first half - they got worn down and Idaho exposed them with the short passing game in the second. QB - So. tranfer - 2nd FCS game WR - True So. McGill/RS So. Hardin RB - Jr Sutton, with True So. Miller and True Fr. Garmin

Wow - NDSU top 3 ... I have them number 3 in the MVFC. Sac St takes down OSU and they are at 22... behind SDSU. You need to watch a little Big Sky TV.

I was reading one of the preseason magazines for FCS and they had a list of the top incoming players at the FCS level. I thought that I would pass along some of the names they mentioned: NOTE: I take all of this will a grain of salt because some areas of the country get much better coverage than others. QB - Top FCS recruits 7. Trent McKinney - Montana 14. Jake Garringer - Sac St. 19. Chris Brown - Cal Poly 21. Nick Meyer - USD 22. Ben Mara - Weber St. 25. Kevin Earl - USD 28. Kyren Poe - N. Arz 32. Jim Forsythe - SDSU 36. Eric Kline - SDSU 40. Vernon Adams - E. Wash RB - Top FCS recruits 4. Demitruis Bronson - E. Wash 9. Reggie Gandy - SDSU 19. Tavlor Mowry - UC Davis 23. Matt Jones - NDSU 30. Garrett Steele - Cal Poly 31. Shaquille Richards - Port St. WR - Top FCS recruits 1. Anthony Boyles - Idaho St. 4. Anthony Williams - USD 8. Duke Bukoski - Idaho St. 11. Hassan Richardson - Montana 13. Dane Turner - UC Davis 14. Casey Young - UND 31. Jameer Jackson - UND 34. Denzel Washington - UNC 38. Justin Cox - Sac St. TE - Top FCS recruits 5. RJ Rickert - N Arz 15. Dejzon Walker - N. Arz 16. Derek Lee - NDSU 19. Jake Withnell - E. Wash OL - Top FCS recruits 8. Jake Abbott - N. Arz 13. Parker Smith - UC Davis 14. Josh Colville - NDSU 18. Tyler Thomas - Mont St. 19. Matthew Devereux - Mont St. 25. Ross Windfeldt - UND 28. Christopher Thee - Weber St.

I am not sure if anyone has a complete list of football games available on TV or Streaming but this is what I have found for football: Sep 01 Drake (Military Appreciation Day) - FSSN/FCS/Midco Sep 10 @Idaho - espn3 Sep 17 @Fresno State - espn3 Sep 24 Black Hills State (Hall of Fame/Potato Bowl) Oct 01 @Southern Utah * - nothing yet Oct 08 Montana Western Oct 22 Cal Poly (Homecoming) - FSSN/FCS/Midco Oct 29 Northern Colorado - Live Video (Streaming site for Big Sky) Nov 05 Sioux Falls Nov 12 UC Davis * - nothing yet Nov 19 South Dakota * - FSSN/FCS/Midco It looks like we can see 6 or the 11 games this year. Next year that will change with Live Video and the Big Sky and FSSN/FCS/Midco. If anyone has information for SUU or Davis please post.

My condolences to family and friends... very sad.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/2010-11/misc_non_event/finald12011.pdf FYI, the directors cup standings use the terminology of FBS, FCS, DIV1 to describe athletic departments. - FBS - Div 1 school with FBS football school - FCS - Div 1 school with FCS football school - DIV1 - Div 1 school without football.

You are absolutely correct Mr Carlson has one vote. But, he is the Majority Leader and Legislative Management Chairman for the House of Representatives. So, he plays a key role controlling legislative actives within the State of North Dakota. He played the lead role in further politicizing a polarizing topic at the state level. Mr Carlson knew prior to creating the bill that the Sioux name had very strong support within the state of North Dakota including both Sioux tribes. I believe the support shown by members of the Standing Rock and Spirit Lake tribes are the key components that lead to this legislation passing. Without that support this bill would have never made it to a vote on the floor. Please note - 8 of the 12 Grand Forks legislators voted against the bill. Saying that Hakstol drove this is "one whale of" a story and just "my oh my".

From the you just cannot make it up category and in typically Bisonville fashion - CAS is wrong again - UND was included in a WAC expansion announcement an associate member in Womens Swimming and Diving - thanks for the link Dakota Fairways.

One other follow-up with the kickass NDSU volleyball team it looks like they are in the running for the Woody Hayes coaching Hat Trick - or could it be the "Culture" at NDSU. 2006 - Citing fundamental differences in coaching philosophies, North Dakota State University Director of Women's Athletics Lynn Dorn announced that she has accepted the resignation of head volleyball coach Zaundra Bina. http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2400&ATCLID=227386 2010 - The father of two former North Dakota State University women's volleyball players says the head coach who resigned this week could be controlling, manipulative and intimidating. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/volleyball/2010-10-20-1813707529_x.htm 20??

Yes, NDSU did win this year in Fargo - my understanding is that it was a good match-up. (26-24, 25-21, 25-19). But, the final RPI shows that UND and NDSU are very comparable programs. I am not sure that the difference is as great as you think. Final RPI 86 BYU Mountain West 14-16 87 North Dakota St. Summit 20-11 88 Kansas Big 12 89 North Dakota Independent 25-5 http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2010WVBrpi1.html In Mens basketball - UND has a long way to go.

Funny story, I went to a UNL game a couple of years ago. I was sitting in the crowd and I cheered when they showed the UND score on the scored board. This very nice elderly lady turned toward me and asked if that was the North Dakota school that had and I quote "Loser coach Bohl". I said no and that he was the coach at a loser program NDSU. She started laughing and then everyone around me started in on Bohl. They do not like Bohl at all and they all know who he is.. apparently he had more than on the field performance issues at UNL. I think some booster are not very happy with him either. And yes UNL games are very fun.

Well, it looks like the average college game has 5.63 runs which is down from previous years because of the new bats. I would venture a guess that a large percentage of games for most teams are decided by 2 runs or less. So, I am not sure what you are getting at but nice game by NDSU. http://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/2011-04-07/halfway-home-homers-scoring-down

Just to be clear - they did not approve but stated that they would not object to the nickname useage. Ken Chambers, principal chief of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, in a story Thursday in The Palm Beach (Fla.) Post, said he had no objection to the school's use of Seminoles as a nickname and mascot, reversing the position of a tribe spokesman earlier this summer. That would align the Oklahoma Seminoles with the Seminole Tribe of Florida, which has long given FSU its blessing. Several calls by USA TODAY to Chambers were not returned Thursday. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2005-08-11-fsu-mascot-support_x.htm

Sorry about replying to my own post, but I do think it is ironic that one of authors is from the University of Iowa and looking at the origin of the word "Hawkeye". If you go the University of Iowa website you get: The term "Hawkeye" originally appeared in the book, The Last of the Mohicans, and was later used in its plural form to describe the people of Iowa. Soon thereafter, the University of Iowa borrowed this nickname for its athletic teams. Look at it a bit more and you get this: the 29th state, known as the hawkeye state, is named as a tribute to chief Black Hawk, leader of the Sac Indians, who after the tribes unsuccessful fight against the white settlers, were relocated to Iowa, a state named from the iowa river, after the ioway indians Plus, you have University of Iowas strong stance on NA nicknames. Do you think the school might be running from something and do not get me started on Sooners and what this represents in US History.

I found this to be a interesting read.. it does talk about the NCAA and it does not view it as a monopoly. http://www.law.umaryland.edu/academics/journals/rrgc/issues/RRGC_9_135_cummings_Harper.pdf The U.S. Supreme Court opined that colleges and universities have alternatives to joining the NCAA when it announced its decision in Natl Collegiate Athletic Assn v. Tarkanian in 1988.139 Coach Jerry Tarkanian, former mens basketball coach for the University of Nevada, Las Vegas (UNLV), argued that the NCAAs power was so overwhelming that university administrations were left with no other choice than to comply with NCAA regulations, including those that deprive parties of constitutionally protected rights.140 Justice John Paul Stevens, in announcing the Courts majority holding, declared that [t]he Universitys desire to remain a powerhouse among the nations college basketball teams is understandable and non-membership in the NCAA obviously would thwart that goal. But that UNLVs options were unpalatable does not mean that they were nonexistent.141 At bottom, the Tarkanian case cemented the nearly unfettered power of the NCAA when it held that the NCAA, as a voluntary, private membership organization did not have to comply with due process and other constitutional requisites when dealing with its voluntary membership institutions.

I thought that Youngstown was again it also. Again, I was simply trying to remind a fan base that tends to rip on UND about the Big Sky that they were very close to being in the Great West Football Conference with USD and UND and that the Gateway/MVFC was no slam dunk for NDSU. It is another reason why I am really excited about the Big Sky and in my opinion UND was very close to indy football.

I thought that the only reason that NDSU got into the MVFC is because SDSU held out until NDSU was included. The MVFC did not want NDSU. But, if you want to think that the MVFC wanted you guys thats cool.

Just to keep you up with the times - UND is moving to the Big Sky which is AQ conference and they will be playoff eligible in 2012. So, recruiting is going much better and no doubt UND lost out on the QB from Bismarck. But, they did pull in several recruits from the region that NDSU and SDSU had interest in. Recruiting for 2011: http://wiki.siouxsports.com/doku.php/football/2011_recruiting_information Won: RB Jer Garman, 5'9”, 170, Marion (Linn Mar), IA Had offers from E. Illinois & USD WR Jameer Jackson, 6'3, 210, Osseo (Osseo), MN Had offers from SDSU & NDSU WR Casey Young, 6'2, 185, 4.48, Aurora (Regis Jesuit), CO Had offer from Weber State OL Sean Meehan, 6'6, 290, Wilmot (Wilmot), WI Had offer from NDSU RB P.J. Sparks, 5'9, 190, 4.5, Glendale (Mountain Ridge), AZ Had offer from SDSU OT Ross Windfeldt, 6'6, 310, 5.8, St. Cloud (Tech), MN Had offer from NDSU Lost: MVFC DB Alex Carr, 5'9, 170, 4.4, Cedar Rapids (Washington), IA UNI RB/WR Isaac Lintz, 6'0, 175, 4.6, W. Des Moines (Valley), IA UNI OL Derek Chancellor, 6'5, 289, McCook (McCook), NE USD OT Nick Jacobs, 6'6, 275, Delano (Delano), MN USD RB Reggie Gandy, 5'8, 180, Minneapolis (De La Salle), MN SDSU LB Brandon Mohr, 6', 220, Sioux Falls (Washington), SD SDSU QB Carson Wentz, 6'5, 205, Bismarck (Century), ND NDSU DE Joe Horvath 6'3, 230, Stevens Point (Stevens Point), WI NDSU Big Sky CB Marcus Alford, 5'10, 165, 4.7, Oxnard (Rio Mesa), CA N. AZ FS Matt Hermanson, 6', 181, Sioux Falls (Washington), SD Montana S Antoine Pickett, 6', 175, 4.6, Concord (De La Salle), CA Sac St

Absolutely agree with this statement - you are comparing the basketball game to the football rivalry - no comparison. Plus a basketball game in a dome can be stale - now put that game in the Betty or BSA and you have atmosphere.

What recruits see and fans see are two very different things. Each recruiting experience is very different. One recruit my see great support, great coaching and great opportunities. Another recruit may see off the field issues, poor training facilities and a limited academic opportunity. So, generalizations don't work. Your comments are just message board chest pounding - seriously go thump chests on the yotes or bunny boards. I think that I answered that in my previous post. Again, my initial response was toward the comment about "NDSU has North Dakota and NW Minnesota by the balls when it comes to football exposure". I think it is a silly statement. ND has always been split between UND/NDSU and I don't see that changing for either team and NW Minnesota largely cheers for the U of M in football because they are the only FBS program around. Unless of course everyone stopped cheering for the U of M because they lost to NDSU. Then again if every U of M football fan switched allegiance because of a loss the residents of Minnesota would have a lot of football jerseys in the closet including Yote gear.

Or, a lot of the residents of Fargo go to UND because of the programs that they offer or they have little interest in NDSU and then return to Fargo after graduating from UND. As to the recruiting comment, I think it has more to do with a AQ league and UND being in transition. Those advantages are about to end. NDSU had a seven year head start and they got a win over Minnesota, one great west football championship, a 10-14 record in MVFC and one decent playoff win over MSU. You are right - NDSU owns North Dakota - MY OH MY.

You do realize a very large percentage of Fargo residents can not stand the Bison and yet you claim they have North Dakota by the balls. Are you the guy on Bisonville that thinks NDSU is going to be in the Big 10 in a couple of years?

In my opinion, if USD had joined the Big Sky. They would have split into divisions with: UND, USD, UM, MSU, EWU, PSU and ISU as one division playing every year, plus a mix of games from the other division - what could have been.