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They have a contract with ESPN for the playoffs through 2032. There will be no G5/FCS merger before that for sure. If they expand to 24 teams (which the big boy conferences are talking about) and have a guarantee one G5 team in every year, this year according to the formula for picking the top 24 there would have been 2, there is no way the G5’s will be adding teams Willie Nillie. Much better to have your foot in the door now than taking a chance waiting.

Minimum 6 years down the road. 2032 at the earliest and then why would the G6 want to expand and let anyone in with a pulse from the FCS. They would want to hold onto any of the media money and keep their G6 championship their own. No network will be clamoring for a team from Grand Forks or brookings or Normal, Illinois to get invited to a conference to sweeten a TV contract. NDSU will be in a better place when and if that happens. And if the FCS teams want to think they will be paid to enter an FBS conference when that happens, good for them. They will be in the third tier for a long time.

Don’t care if they did. Did they want NDSU to kick off their entire CFB season or UND? They didn’t get that wrong.

ESPN knows the difference. NFL teams know the difference. NFL teams know where to go to look for draft picks and the next NFL players. UND is lucky to have NDSU around. They have their pro day the afternoon of NDSU's so they get a few scouts to drive up after they are at NDSU's. Otherwise they would have no scouts there. Not that they will get anyone drafted. Trust me. ESPN wanted NDSU for their opener last year. It was the most watched opener in many years. UND might, I say might, get a streaming option on the Big 10 plus for their game.

Guess you are right. They could lose their most key member, NDSU. They could very well dominate and maybe get invited to the PAC12 or another conference for football only. They may not have a large TV market, but there is a reason all of their P4 games have been on National TV. The networks love the Bison FB story.

Are you saying the NDSU deal is worse than the Sac St deal? It appears Sac St won't even make up for the extra money they are paying to get into the Mac ($18M vs $12.5M) in the 5 years of media rights they may get. And then after that, NDSU will get 5 times more per year. Not sure what your point is.

Then your coach isn’t playing the right kids. Smith should be getting 30-35 minutes a game if he is that efficient.

UND is not athletic enough to create space or a shot against NDSU. Smith couldn’t even separate. And he is supposed to be the athlete on this team. The 40 year old King can’t quite keep up with Mr. Strickland.

Kick them out of the Summit. I think this shows NDSU has a back up plan. Why is UND’s and the Summits when they fall below the auto qualifier level of member schools?

Honestly don’t know. It depends on how they do. If they turn into a Boise State of 15 to 20 years ago they may have a better chance of not getting left behind in the future if there is a split, which is now more in question. If they fall on their face excitement will back down. Some things that are most likely true. It is going to get more expensive in the future to move up, both from the NCAA fee and conference fee. There are too many schools wanting to move (Sac St, Tarleton, UTRGV, etc), willing to pay to get an invite for it not to keep going up. it is better to be established in the FBS sooner rather than later. The current situation was not sustainable. Half empty dome for playoff games told us that. Hearing donation commitments from major donors are significantly larger with the move up and would not be increasing with staying at the FBS level. I think the other FCS Dakota schools will have to follow in the next 5-10 years and it may cost them double. Plus they will be playing from behind.

Sam Herder tweeted (X’d) this morning there is no exit fee for the MVFC. No penalties for leaving without notice.

Winning 10 of them in 15 years? If UND won 10 D3 hockey championships my guess is fans would probably be wanting to move to D1. I know they are D1, but I would think you would understand that.

Not saying that at all. FCS titles are great. But after 10 in 15 years, they aren’t as exciting. Playing in the FBS is more exciting. D2 championships were great too. But FCS was better than D2. Not that hard to comprehend.

Never go to Bisonville. Looked at that site a few years ago and most on there are extremely delusional and way over the top. I don’t think they should take a discount to play in Fargodome. NDSU won’t pay what P4 schools pay so if any regional FCS school has a chance at 600k or 700k payout they should take it. I think most Bison fans are ok with not playing the regional FCS teams for a while.

Bet you JMU fans are happier about ladt year than an FCS championship, as most fans would be.

Really? Making an FBS playoff game is less than winning an FBS national title? Kinda like saying making the Frozen Four is “meh” compared to winning a D3 title.

I’m sure UND will be in the FCS game rotation for NDSU. Maybe once every 5 years and always in the Fargodome if you are ok with that. Maybe $200k payout since your travel expenses would be just a buds trip with no hotel expenses.

There isn’t. But honestly, the state could fund all $17 million and still owe NDSU more for the discrepancy between the state funding for athletics between the 2 schools the last 10 years.

The game this year should have been in the Fargodome anyway so there’s that. You will have to find someone else to play that you can screw your fans by charging $90 for a ticket that costs $12 for any other game.

Because if you kick NDSU out you are down to 7 teams. When, and it is when, St. Thomas leaves you are down to 6 and automatic qualifiers become VERY problematic.

Wentz has made $133 million, Lance $36 million, Turner $34 million, Watson $15 with another $20 million in the next two years (plus huge extension coming possibly this offseason), Zabel has nearly $20 million guaranteed and very likely will be one of the highest paid OL soon. plus a 5-10 other current players in the NFL, Not saying they are financing any of this but saying they couldn't fund a small fraction is ridiculous.

If NDSU was scheduled to play everybody in the MVFC they may have done this. Since they weren't and some teams still have 8 MVFC games set, I doubt they would do that this late in the game. UND will have to make up that $900K or so in ticket revenue some how. Going from 10,000 (12K - 2K students) at $100/ticket to 8,000 at $12/ticket to see Valpo will be quite a hit to the budget.

This is Denver’s last year. St. Thomas will follow soon. They have made it known the Summit is not their long term home. They want and will be in the Big East soon.

UND gets more state funding than NDSU for athletics.

Why would Fenton kick them out. The Summit doesn’t have football. Besides, that would bring the Summit down to 7 schools, so to be 6 when St. Thomas leaves.