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Mature response. Thanks for your worthless contribution to this thread.

You make a good point. It would be interesting to see what would actually happen if Conservatives actually got their way on abortion. It could be entertaining watching the Religious right and other conservative bible thumpers try to spin cutting social programs for the poor and disabled so that billionaires can have more as something Christ would have advocated.

Mark Levin is an idiot who is incapable of arguing any of his positions so he resorts to calling names. He wouldn't last a second in a debate with Olbermann or Schultz because they'd actually be able to articulate their position while Levin lacks the mental capacity to articulate nearly anything. Glen Beck on the other hand is either seriously mentally ill or is one of the all time greatest attention whores in human history. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he says some of the asinine things he says to get attention but it still shouldn't give him a pass for the outright lies that he promotes on his show. It's all a moot point as both will probably be jobless within five years due to the diminishing influence of right- wing talk radio. Sorry to go on a politics tangent here but it was already going this direction so I thought I'd get my shots in before this forum gets locked down.

Being a transitional Division I, we are at the mercy of conferences like the Summit. If we want to join it will be on their terms because they hold all the cards and they know the death sentence that life as a Division I independent is for a university. That being said the Summit wants the nickname resolved by early 2010 to meet their expansion timeline. They would prefer to have UND but if we refuse to address our issues in order to meet their timeline they will pick someone else and we'll be on the outside looking in. In all honesty, their only concern is adding a strong 12th member who they can add according to their timeline and fits their existing footprint. They don't care about the Sioux nickname other than they would not like it to have it as an issue or more likely would prefer to have it gone forever. Criticize their policy but the fact is they have us by the balls because they will get along just as well without us. I wish this could somehow get resolved with us keeping the nickname but I truly believe that this fight is a lost cause because one way or another the NCAA will get their pound of flesh that is the Sioux nickname. It's a reality that we need to accept. I'll still wear Sioux gear after the name changes but would also most likely wear gear with the new logo on it as well because I'm a fan of the university and it's athletic teams whatever they may be called. I hope I answered your questions, but I would like Sioux nickname supporters to answer a few for me. What do you realistically see as a future conference possibility for the rest of our athletic teams if UND misses out on Summit expansion due to the nickname? What negative repercussions are you willing to accept to keep the Sioux nickname? Losing athletic teams in everything but hockey? No longer playing MN and WI in hockey when Big 10 hockey starts up? An athletic department with serious deficits created by pathetic interest in any program other than hockey? What price is too high a price to pay for logo?

After observing the talent level of Montana, ASU, and the two CAA squads that played last night it's evident that it's a level above anything seen in the MVFC. All four of the semi-finalists are much better measuring sticks of what it takes to be nationally competitive than UNI or even SIU in my opinion.

I disagree. It would impact UND attendance considerably. Without Minnesota and Wisconsin the WCHA is a bunch of Division II and Division III schools except for UND and Denver. Games against SCSU and Mankato won't draw nearly as well without the interest created from big draws against Minnesota and Wisconsin.

Contrary to popular belief the Summit League has other options and doesn't need us in their conference. They have all the leverage and could really care less about what effects getting rid of the nickname before the 2010 deadline will have on our university. Die-hard nickname proponents need to accept this fact. No one at the NCAA or the Summit League really gives a rats ass about the Sioux nickname. They would just as soon have it gone and unfortunately they have all the leverage in this situation. If you choose to punish UND when the nickname finally does go it will only hurt UND and will have no impact whatsoever on the people who actually brought about the death of the Sioux nickname. If UND clings desperately to the nickname then the NCAA and the Summitt League will punish the school for this stance and university will suffer tremendous losses while the NCAA and the Summit will be largely unimpacted by our decisions. They got all the cards and it's time for us to move on, drop the nickname, and focus on building the UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA as the school and it's athletic teams are far more important than the nickname will ever be.

Looks like the Bearcats are going to hold on for the W. Good for them as I can't imagine how many shrinks that squad would have needed to get rid of the complex created by losing 5 straight national championships. Congrats Bearcats!

I think it's in the Big Ten bylaws that if six schools sponsor it then the Big Ten must have a conference. Still doubt Notre Dame moves to Big Ten even though it would be in the school's best interest. I think you see Syracuse or possibly UConn becoming the twelfth member and a Big Ten Hockey Conference up and running with affiliate members in the next three years. Alvarez and Wisconsin have a hell of a lot more pull than Mature (who could be unemployed soon) and Minnesota. If OSU, UW, and the two Michigan schools want Big Ten hockey then there is nothing Minnesota can do to stop it.

Let's just say NWMSU is due to win one of these.

I do and so do the fans of nearly every other program on campus except for the hockey program. The longer it takes for this nickname issue to get resolved the more it hurts our chances of being accepted to the Summit League. If this thing is still an issue in late January, early February it will probably result in the Summit choosing another member (probably Denver) and leaving us out in the cold. If this happens it will essentially de-rail our Division I move and will be death sentence for every other athletic team on campus other than men's and women's hockey. If the powers that be allow this to happen in order to appease some hockey nuts who are bigger fans of a logo than the actual athletic teams then I for one will never give another red cent to this university.

First Round, November 28, 2009 South Dakota State (8-3) at (1) Montana (11-0)- Montana Eastern Washington (8-3) at Stephen F. Austin (9-2)- SFA South Carolina State (10-1) at Appalachian State (9-2)- Appalachian State Elon (9-2) at (4) Richmond (10-1)- Richmond Holy Cross (9-2) at (2) Villanova (10-1)- Villanova New Hampshire (9-2) at McNeese State (9-2)- New Hampshire Weber State (7-4) at William & Mary (9-2)- William & Mary Eastern Illinois (8-3) at (3) Southern Illinois (10-1)- Southern Illinois 2nd Round: Montana vs. SFA- SFA Appalachian State vs. Richmond- Richmond Villanova vs. New Hampshire- Villanova William & Mary vs. Southern Illinois- Southern Illinois Semi-Finals: Richmond vs. SFA- Richmond Villanova vs. Southern Illinois- Villanova Finals: Richmond vs. Villanova- Richmond repeats!

I agree. However, I think we should take any game with a Big Ten team that's available to us. Looking at the Big Ten's performance against I-AA, WAC, and Mountain West teams it's apparent that not even the top end schools (Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa) would be much better than squads from less regarded conferences.

Taylor knows he's on his way out and this just might be his last stick in the eye to the state legislators who got rid of the crook Joe Chapman. I predict he won't be NDSU's AD next year at this time. On another note I also don't foresee UND and USD getting into the MVFC for the foreseeable future. I think UND gets in the Summit unless this nickname garbage de-rails it. I also think the GWFC will get an autobid as soon as the moratorium is lifted and Nebraska-Omaha and multiple other strong Division II schools move up (Central Missouri, Tarleton State, possibly a few others).

Different day, same old crap. For the students on this forum just remember that as long as you're a student at UND their will always be two sets of rules regarding behavior in Grand Forks. There is one set of rules for students and those of student age and another for everybody else. Just accept it and try to remember when you get older that just because you're no longer of student age it doesn't entitle you to treat those younger than you like crap just because you're older.

Nice work on the broadcast guys..... this has been downright piss-poor between the 10 minute commercial breaks and now this lost feed.

Are they actually playing the game on KFGO's feed or is just commercials for them as well?

The decision to have co-coordinators by Lennon was originally made because Mannaussau lacked the knowledge regarding the secondary to call a defense correctly and Kelling lacked enough knowledge regarding the 3-4 to call the defense correctly. This should have been a good indicator that neither one of them was ready or capable of being a D Coordinator. I think if Lennon would have had the option he probably would have gone and looked for someone outside of the program to come in but the pay scale is so low that he likely had no choice but to promote someone from within. Both of these guys have had four years to prove themselves and the defense has gotten worse every year under their watch.

I worked security at the Alerus for a number of events during college. I never worked a football game but worked a lot of concerts and gradually determined that some of my co-workers just genuinely enjoyed being dicks to people at these events. It was major power trip for them and they just couldn't seem to understand that the people they were harassing over minor or bogus transgressions had paid to have a good time which they were then spoiling. The security is so poorly trained that most of the time these jackasses would escalate minor situations into major ones by being overly confrontational with people. It frustrated a lot of people, including myself, and a great deal of the good security people stopped signing up to work events which has evidently led to what you're seeing today.

No I'm not mad at those guys because they showed up every week and played hard. None of those players would have considered yesterday's performance acceptable. What was acceptable about yesterday's performance? What was acceptable about the loss to Sioux Falls or the blowout loss to Southern Utah? Why should continuing underperformance be considered acceptable? It's how things work in the real world. Either you produce or your gone.

No one is saying that these coaches aren't nice guys to have a beer with but their is and should always be expectations that come with being a part of this football program. Right now those expectations are not being met. If we want to be a !@#!$ football program where winning and competing for championships isn't a realistic goal then we can continue tolerating the poor play and poor game day preparation demonstrated by this football team and this coaching staff.

Pretty much spot on. Couldn't be said any better than this.

Take it easy on him. He's just bitter after incurring 30 grand in private school debt to end up cutting grass for UND and other state school grads who paid a fraction of the cost for their education. Obviously the bitterness has gone to his head.

The series will probably resume next season. NDSU doesn't have any cards left to play and Taylor will literally have to risk his job if he fights renewing the rivalry. NDSU is on the !@#$ list at the legislature and won't have a leg to stand on after 13,000 empty seats appear at the Fargodome to watch the Bison lose out against Youngstown State.

It really doesn't matter what Minnesota thinks. There a small fish in the Big Ten. They can drag their feet on this but what Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan want they will eventually get.